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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Feb 23 11.52am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, the boss gets their way....doesn't mean the rest of us need to be happy about it for the reasons given.

And I didn't say that you did.

 


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Originally posted by NEILLO

And I didn't say that you did.

Oooh yes you did....You distinctly said I had to be happy about it.

In fact you said I had to celebrate it with brandy and a cigar.

It's all on record.

 


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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 04 Feb 23 12.06pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Maybe he said "you havent got a F*****g Clue" and was sacked for his honesty.

Ironic.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Oooh yes you did....You distinctly said I had to be happy about it.

In fact you said I had to celebrate it with brandy and a cigar.

It's all on record.

Let's hope were all on the brandy and cigars later !

 


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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 04 Feb 23 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

That's an unlikely scenario in L1/2.

Just keep firing the cheap shots at PV.

PV spent 102m euros at Nice, you or I dont know if PV is good or not, Time will tell.

 


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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 04 Feb 23 12.22pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Two different approaches:

"You're a bunch of useless lazy cnuts, call that a performance, try playing for the badge with a bit of pride once in a while, cnuts."

"Well done lads, didn't quite come off today, but we get to go again on the training ground next week. There's a few things I'd like to put into practice that should bode well for the future."

 

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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Two different approaches:

"You're a bunch of useless lazy cnuts, call that a performance, try playing for the badge with a bit of pride once in a while, cnuts."

"Well done lads, didn't quite come off today, but we get to go again on the training ground next week. There's a few things I'd like to put into practice that should bode well for the future."

What's wrong with approach 1 followed by a deep breath then approach 2?

 

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View Palacesince64's Profile Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 04 Feb 23 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I cannot confirm or deny this, however what is FACT is that we won 2 successive games after the Everton debacle.

Edited by Willo (04 Feb 2023 11.02am)

Sorry ! I missed out the word “allegedly” in that sentence. Mind you if The Daily Mail says it happened it must be true! I mean they’d never print something that they couldn’t substantiate, would they?

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

What's wrong with approach 1 followed by a deep breath then approach 2?

Indeed, the carrot and the stick is a common place motivator

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 04 Feb 23 1.40pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

That would be the Shaun Derry that was sacked by Cambridge and Notts County...


Which is a relevant point in this issue. If Derry used the bad cop/hairdryer type treatment at those clubs it clearly didn't work.

The Athletic article states that the Everton case was by no means a one-off.

Furthermore, the article adds:

"Derry was deemed to have overstepped his roles and responsibilities, with Vieira feeling the 45-year-old’s style of man-management clashed too egregiously with his own".

and

"At Palace, the job of handling the players was considered to lie with the manager and his assistant Osian Roberts: that was the primary cause of conflict and ultimately led to Derry’s departure"

 

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Originally posted by doombear

Vieira feeling the 45-year-old’s style of man-management clashed too egregiously with his own".

and

"At Palace, the job of handling the players was considered to lie with the manager and his assistant Osian Roberts: that was the primary cause of conflict and ultimately led to Derry’s departure"

Firstly I wonder if Derry was given any warnings and if so did he just ignore them and secondly whilst Vieira has a reasonable command of the English language I doubt whether "egregiously" was in his English vocabulary

 

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Originally posted by doombear


Which is a relevant point in this issue. If Derry used the bad cop/hairdryer type treatment at those clubs it clearly didn't work.

The Athletic article states that the Everton case was by no means a one-off.

Furthermore, the article adds:

"Derry was deemed to have overstepped his roles and responsibilities, with Vieira feeling the 45-year-old’s style of man-management clashed too egregiously with his own".

and

"At Palace, the job of handling the players was considered to lie with the manager and his assistant Osian Roberts: that was the primary cause of conflict and ultimately led to Derry’s departure"

Coaches are there to do the managers bidding. If you are not happy with your level of responsibility or the direction the manager is taking you discuss with him in private. If you are still not happy I'm afraid you should leave as the boss always gets his way.

If this row was in public then he loses straight away even if what he said was right.

 


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