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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Feb 23 2.37pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

The council is bankrupt no doubt they will blame the previous administration but someone has to pay. If the government pays it's a green light to other councils to act irresponsibly.

I feel sorry for the locals but next time they might want to think before ticking the box at election time.

Well, apparently they have now agreed a deal with gove to write off £540m. Almost adds up to 10 years of underfunding so from my perspective that is a suitable offer.

However, it doesn't solve the funding gap going forward, but it's certainly helpful.

 


oh contrare, said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 98% of people are morons.

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Feb 23 2.41pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

According to this which is a few years out of date and of course is politically bias Bromley is nearly at the bottom with regard to government funding in London.

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Each year I get a leaflet from the council complaining about this I will keep an eye out in March perhaps we can compare figures with Croydon.

There is always an element of spin as some councils receive other types of grants which they may or may not include.

Noted. It may not be Bromley... it could be any one of sutton, lambeth, merton etc. I sourced the 60m figure via insidecroydon, which are usually pretty good when it comes to accuracy on local issues but for some reason don't mention who the comparison is with. I'd also assume they're using up to date figures.

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oh contrare, said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 98% of people are morons.

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Feb 23 2.46pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I was born and raised on shrublands. Lived upstairs from rock bottoms, then back to shrublands. Both areas were ok 20 odd years ago. Now itís a s*** hole. Best thing about it is the A23 towards the M25 for an escape. And palace of course.
patronising everyone with an opinion about this isnít really the way to go. But hey you fill your boots as you appear so worldly wise about the subject. Maybe you should give the mayor a call for a coffee morning to discuss your resolution to the problem.

OK, so used to live here, haven't lived here for 20 years. Got it.

'Everyone'

It's a debate. As such it helps to have some depth of knowledge on the subject.

 


oh contrare, said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 98% of people are morons.

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Feb 23 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

More background.


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Feb 23 3.51pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

OK, so used to live here, haven't lived here for 20 years. Got it.

'Everyone'

It's a debate. As such it helps to have some depth of knowledge on the subject.

So what youíre actually saying is unless you live in Croydon your opinion isnít relevant. I believe you donít live in Folkestone but have had much to say about immigration !
Although 20 years ago croydon wasnít the s***e hole it is now so thatís an opinion you canít argue with as itís just that. An opinion. How long have you resided in this champion of a borough ?

Edited by cryrst (17 Feb 2023 3.54pm)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Feb 23 3.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

90% of councils are having to dip into their reserves.
Sort of explains the absolute nut house that Croydon council is. It doesnít have any !

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Feb 23 3.57pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Just think of that £540 million and how many nurses, teachers, care workers it could pay before slating hmg.

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 17 Feb 23 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Just think of that £540 million and how many nurses, teachers, care workers it could pay before slating hmg.

I thought there are supposed to be independent auditors assisting councils from sliding into the abyss ... where were they on this occasion? Surely, it doesnít just happen overnight? However, build a few council hostels to accommodate illegal immigrants and the money will come flooding in ... problem solved.

 


Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Feb 23 6.37pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So what youíre actually saying is unless you live in Croydon your opinion isnít relevant. I believe you donít live in Folkestone but have had much to say about immigration !
Although 20 years ago croydon wasnít the s***e hole it is now so thatís an opinion you canít argue with as itís just that. An opinion. How long have you resided in this champion of a borough ?

Edited by cryrst (17 Feb 2023 3.54pm)

It's certainly less relevant on this very specific and current topic Ė also, you're not directly affected by it. Easy to snipe from the sidelines...

If you'd started a thread on immigration in Folkestone, sure. That's slightly different from discussing immigration as a general topic. Why do I constantly need to explain the obvious

Definitely can argue with that generic assessment. It's a massive borough Ė for some reason people just seem to associate Croydon with central Croydon, more often than not the area around EC station and West Croydon. There are of course loads of relatively affluent, semi-suburban areas, but it's far easier to just lump everything to gather to suit the narrative.

You also have rose tinted spectacles if you're saying Croydon didn't have it's fair share of s***hole areas 20, 30, 40 years ago. If what you really mean is the areas with loads of 'ethnics and immigrants' are s***holes, then just say it.

 


oh contrare, said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 98% of people are morons.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Feb 23 6.53pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

It's certainly less relevant on this very specific and current topic Ė also, you're not directly affected by it. Easy to snipe from the sidelines...

If you'd started a thread on immigration in Folkestone, sure. That's slightly different from discussing immigration as a general topic. Why do I constantly need to explain the obvious

Definitely can argue with that generic assessment. It's a massive borough Ė for some reason people just seem to associate Croydon with central Croydon, more often than not the area around EC station and West Croydon. There are of course loads of relatively affluent, semi-suburban areas, but it's far easier to just lump everything to gather to suit the narrative.

You also have rose tinted spectacles if you're saying Croydon didn't have it's fair share of s***hole areas 20, 30, 40 years ago. If what you really mean is the areas with loads of 'ethnics and immigrants' are s***holes, then just say it.

Are you on drugs ?

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 17 Feb 23 7.01pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Are you on drugs ?

All the time

 


oh contrare, said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 98% of people are morons.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Feb 23 7.15pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I departed Croydon in the late 90s never to return.

In terms of the Council, I had a dear friend who was a Labour councillor.Over the years we enjoyed many tipples and many bouts of jocularity and hilarity.I reflect with fondness the times we had together.

We never discussed politics and even though he was a councillor in my ward I never once voted for him, given that he was on the opposite side of the house to me ! Some Conservatives who also knew him well and imibed with him for many a year used to cast a vote for him and a vote for the Conservative candidate. I always voted for the 2 Conservative candidates!

 

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