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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 18 Feb 23 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Utterly infuriating. I like Vieira and am not calling for his head like some of you but some of his in-game management is truly quite baffling.

Today with ten minutes left we were absolutely crying out for cool, experienced heads to help see the game out. McArthur and Milovojevic were on the bench, who I would have thought would be perfect for such a task.

Yet instead he brings on Ahamada (20), Richards (22) and Edouard (25). Time and time again he fails to see these games out and the amount of points we have dropped from late goals since he arrived must be the most in the league.

I have no faith in his substitutions from winnings positions and, indeed, we've dropped 10 points after leading this season.

Yet, somehow, from behind his management seems to be spot on. We've taken 14 points after falling behind this season, the joint most in the league.

He talks about wanting more goals, so why on earth is Jordan Ayew still starting for us? I am officially at the point now where I do not give one solitary s*** about his defensive contribution or workrate, the bloke's a forward! And we're scored twice from open play in about 4 months.

Ayew should not be starting for us, neither should Schlupp or Mateta who is abysmal and I have no idea why we made his loan permanent. If anything bring them on late, or ideally not at all.

Eze was outstanding today, I thought. Until Zaha is back I'd like to see him on the left, Olise (brilliant assist) on the right and Edoaurd up front.

Until McArthur is fit again, have a midfield of Doucoure and two from Lokonga, Hughes and Ahamada in the middle.

Ultimately one win and four goals from 10 league games is relegation form and we HAVE to start being braver and trying to score and win games.

 


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View Daddyorc's Profile Daddyorc Flag Atlantic Highlands, NJ 18 Feb 23 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

I thought we played pretty well. Losing Mitchell was a bit of a downer, as I thought he was playing well.

The major frustration for me was Ayew's pass at the end of the game. I just don't get it. Why? We'd worked our way out of trouble and all he has to do is hold on to the ball, or, just hoof it down the field for a goal kick. This allows our defence to re-align and uses up time. Instead he goes for the wonder pass and it lands up straight in the central defender's feet. Patrick talks about 1 mistake costing us the game, this was it.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 18 Feb 23 8.37pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

I haven't watched any of the game today but talk of an unchallenged cross and header in the 6th minute of injury time is ringing alarm bells.

 

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View Palacesince64's Profile Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 18 Feb 23 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Utterly infuriating. I like Vieira and am not calling for his head like some of you but some of his in-game management is truly quite baffling.

Today with ten minutes left we were absolutely crying out for cool, experienced heads to help see the game out. McArthur and Milovojevic were on the bench, who I would have thought would be perfect for such a task.

Yet instead he brings on Ahamada (20), Richards (22) and Edouard (25). Time and time again he fails to see these games out and the amount of points we have dropped from late goals since he arrived must be the most in the league.

I have no faith in his substitutions from winnings positions and, indeed, we've dropped 10 points after leading this season.

Yet, somehow, from behind his management seems to be spot on. We've taken 14 points after falling behind this season, the joint most in the league.

He talks about wanting more goals, so why on earth is Jordan Ayew still starting for us? I am officially at the point now where I do not give one solitary s*** about his defensive contribution or workrate, the bloke's a forward! And we're scored twice from open play in about 4 months.

Ayew should not be starting for us, neither should Schlupp or Mateta who is abysmal and I have no idea why we made his loan permanent. If anything bring them on late, or ideally not at all.

Eze was outstanding today, I thought. Until Zaha is back I'd like to see him on the left, Olise (brilliant assist) on the right and Edoaurd up front.

Until McArthur is fit again, have a midfield of Doucoure and two from Lokonga, Hughes and Ahamada in the middle.

Ultimately one win and four goals from 10 league games is relegation form and we HAVE to start being braver and trying to score and win games.

I guess when the team lose a late goal the manager is going to be targeted when it comes to his substitutions or lack of them. People on here have had a go at him in the past for bringing subs on to hang on rather than going for a second. Having said that, I’m not sure why he brought on Edouard for Mateta when we’re a goal up. Edouard can’t or won’t defend. Mateta may not be PL standard as a striker but his height is useful defensively at set pieces.

 

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NE14T Flag 18 Feb 23 9.30pm

As soon as I heard Anderson had flopped down in the 89 minute time wasting I called it that much more extra time would be added and we would concede.

Why do we always fall for these silly mistakes? Just play the game out honestly and don’t give the officials a sniff. You can write the script. It boils down to a lack of intelligence not just pressure although Ayew pass was extremely poor decision making.

Edited by NE14T (18 Feb 2023 9.33pm)

Edited by NE14T (18 Feb 2023 9.35pm)

 


The beatings will stop when morale improves.

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 18 Feb 23 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by NE14T

As soon as I heard Anderson had flopped down in the 89 minute time wasting I called it that much more extra time would be added and we would concede.

Why do we always fall for these silly mistakes? Just play the game out honestly and don’t give the officials a sniff. You can write the script. It’s a largely a lack of intelligence not just pressure.

Edited by NE14T (18 Feb 2023 9.33pm)

Agree with his. Great wasting time if you're cynical and good at defending your area. But we're not.

 

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NE14T Flag 18 Feb 23 9.44pm

But my point is that it’s rarely an effective ploy to time waste from say the 87 minute. Ref has this time wasting ‘injury’ in his mind at critical pressurised end period and always adds much more time than the player was down for. It usually back fires.

Thanks Andersen.

Edited by NE14T (18 Feb 2023 9.49pm)

 


The beatings will stop when morale improves.

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Feb 23 9.51pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

prior to the game i would have been happy with a Draw.

Brentford are mustard, and they were at home.

we will beat some other teams soon.

 


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View Hannes's Profile Hannes Flag Vienna 18 Feb 23 9.52pm Send a Private Message to Hannes Add Hannes as a friend

Originally posted by NE14T

But my point is that it’s rarely an effective ploy to time waste from say the 87 minute. Ref has this ‘injury’ in his mind at critical pressurised end period and always adds much more time than the player was down for. It usually back fires.

Thanks Andersen.

A bit harsh on Andersen. I haven't counted, but he cleared a lot in the critical phases of the game.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 18 Feb 23 9.54pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Palacesince64

I guess when the team lose a late goal the manager is going to be targeted when it comes to his substitutions or lack of them. People on here have had a go at him in the past for bringing subs on to hang on rather than going for a second. Having said that, I’m not sure why he brought on Edouard for Mateta when we’re a goal up. Edouard can’t or won’t defend. Mateta may not be PL standard as a striker but his height is useful defensively at set pieces.

I will check but did not Eze score within a minute or two of coming on as an err substitute

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 18 Feb 23 9.58pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

prior to the game i would have been happy with a Draw.

Brentford are mustard, and they were at home.

we will beat some other teams soon.

Don't like all your politics.

But your football and level headed response to the knicker wetters is commendable.

A point is brilliant.

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 18 Feb 23 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

prior to the game i would have been happy with a Draw.

Brentford are mustard, and they were at home.

we will beat some other teams soon.

We will beat other teams soon......in the Championship!!

 

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