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View Vectis's Profile Vectis Flag 21 May 23 10.36am Send a Private Message to Vectis Add Vectis as a friend

I may be wrong, but I donít think Decoure has been given a yellow card since Royís return, whereas under PV he was collecting them almost every match. Coincidence? I donít think so. His instructions on what is expected of him must have changed and I think he has become much more effective as a result

 

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Originally posted by Vectis

I may be wrong, but I donít think Decoure has been given a yellow card since Royís return, whereas under PV he was collecting them almost every match. Coincidence? I donít think so. His instructions on what is expected of him must have changed and I think he has become much more effective as a result

In the interview Roy and Steve gave Roy pointed out that midfield was our weakness and that is what they have worked on. It makes sense I think Decoure was doing his little dutch boy impression under PV desperately trying to plug holes where he could and getting frustrated. With a more settled midfield he is showing us he is not just a kick the opposition player.

Edited by Badger11 (21 May 2023 11.15am)

 


One more point

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 21 May 23 11.21am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

My view here is that had we stood by PV,then we would in all likelihood be playing in the Championship next season,despite the outcry of the many PV, supporters among the BBC and ex Arsenal players,including Wrighty,who remain convinced that PV,would have matched Roy,had we stuck by him.
What complete and utter rubbish!!

 

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Originally posted by Jacey

My view here is that had we stood by PV,then we would in all likelihood be playing in the Championship next season,despite the outcry of the many PV, supporters among the BBC and ex Arsenal players,including Wrighty,who remain convinced that PV,would have matched Roy,had we stuck by him.
What complete and utter rubbish!!

Agreed and massively disrespectful of Roy and his achievement. We now know 37 points was enough for safety and Roy secured that in his first 4 games back in charge, arresting what was beginning to look like a terminal downward fall to the Championship.

 

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View Vectis's Profile Vectis Flag 21 May 23 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Vectis Add Vectis as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

In the interview Roy and Steve gave Roy pointed out that midfield was our weakness and that is what they have worked on. It makes sense I think Decoure was doing his little dutch boy impression under PV desperately trying to plug holes where he could and getting frustrated. With a more settled midfield he is showing us he is not just a kick the opposition player.

Edited by Badger11 (21 May 2023 11.15am)

Yes, I think thatís a very valid observation and an astute move by Roy

 

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View Rogers the legend's Profile Rogers the legend Flag Auckland 22 May 23 6.55am Send a Private Message to Rogers the legend Add Rogers the legend as a friend

Personally (and I'm sure this is the case with 99% of fans). I wouldn't care if our manager was pink with blue spots, looked like Mr Blobby and had a mother who was a hamster and a father who smelled of elderberries! All I wont is to be competitive and win as much as possible.

The fact is PV (as with most fantastically gifted ex players- ie Lampard, Gerrard, Charlton the list is endless) could not relate to his players. There are exceptions, and if they manage to make the jump then they tend to be exceptional (Guardiola, Ancelotti, del Bosque). Roy has taken years to perfect this and it really shows when the chips are down. And it has been pointed out before that the previous season, the results were starting to tail off, and CG not signing probably caused us significant problems on and off the field (ie getting a solid replacement)

The fact that some of these pundits cant seem to drop the sacking (as they have with other sackings and appointments in the same period), does seem to point to an agender. They must know the rumour that it was the players that probably put the final nail in that particular coffin. There will eventually be more coloured managers of that there can be no doubt (just like there eventually became more coloured players over time). But they need to get their jobs and keep them on merit, not just because of age, creed, culture or gender. Either way I'm so glad the decision was made and we started winning again (in style). COYP

 


It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.

Archie Griffen

Hating Brighton since 1974

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View Rogers the legend's Profile Rogers the legend Flag Auckland 22 May 23 6.56am Send a Private Message to Rogers the legend Add Rogers the legend as a friend

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Edited by Rogers the legend (22 May 2023 6.59am)

 


It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.

Archie Griffen

Hating Brighton since 1974

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Originally posted by thai-eagle

I think we may close this post after 2-2 against Fulham. Under Vieira we not only lost 0-3 at home (it could easily have been five or six), but we were outplayed like I hardly ever seen before. Yesterday some weak Mitchell defending cost us the game. And for long spells we were the better team.
Thus, based on the two Fulham games, I dear say that having Roy back is a blessing.

Roy made Wardy score. The debate is over.

 

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