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Originally posted by rob1861

Hey all, i was chatting to a dad at my son's football match today and his firm are one of two remaining contenders for a contract to be a part of the build of the new main stand at Selhurst Park. I'm avoiding giving more details in case it could cause an issue.

Hopefully this is good news that we will actually see the build happening in our lifetime and Parish will deliver once again on his promises!!!

I really hope he doesn't hand the baton on once the main stand is built. I know we all have different views on his achievements but he has been brilliant as far as i can see.


I was chatting with some random person named Larry who told the same story.

If your info is legit you would give the names of the people who are in the running this is not an issue and not secret info so the whole cause issues is BS that is not how construction industry works.

Palace has had no real interest from people to take over so why would SP just leave plus this is the biggest pay package he has ever received in his current role.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


I was chatting with some random person named Larry who told the same story.

If your info is legit you would give the names of the people who are in the running this is not an issue and not secret info so the whole cause issues is BS that is not how construction industry works.

Palace has had no real interest from people to take over so why would SP just leave plus this is the biggest pay package he has ever received in his current role.

It must be quite wearing being a PL football chairman and having to deal with the day to day issues that happen at football clubs.

I am happy with Parish and don't want him to go but I could see a situation where after the stadium has been rebuilt he feels this is a major accomplishment along with keeping us in the PL.

He's 58 now so could be sixty when the build is complete, perhaps he may want to re-consider his priorities?

 


One more point

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Your name suits you, grumpymort.

Have you ever considered the tender might be private at this stage and could cause issues for those involved if i reveal details?

Also, you don't have to believe me, i don't really care. I heard it and thought i'd pass it on. You can take it or leave it.

Finally Grumpy - here is chat GPTs gathering of legislative requirements surrounding privacy in a construction tender process

In the UK, the confidentiality of information during construction tenders, particularly for private companies, is governed by various legal frameworks and practices.

1. **General Legal Framework for Protecting Confidential Information**:
- **Common Law and Trade Secrets**: The UK has two overlapping regimes to protect business information: common law confidential information and the Trade Secrets (Enforcement, etc.) Regulations 2018. Information is protected under common law if it has a 'quality of confidence', is provided in circumstances that imply an obligation of confidentiality, and any unauthorized use or disclosure has or will cause detriment to the information owner&#12304;14†source&#12305;.
- **Tests for Confidentiality**: There are specific tests under UK law to determine if information is 'confidential':
- The information must be objectively confidential, not just labeled as such.
- The recipient must know or should have known that the information is confidential.
- Unauthorised use or disclosure of the information must cause or will cause a detriment to the information owner&#12304;14†source&#12305;.

2. **Specifics in Private Sector Construction Tenders**:
- **Implied Contracts and Litigation Risks**: In the private sector, the tender process often includes implied contracts, and breaches can lead to claims for damages. Litigation may arise from various relationships, such as between contractors and employers or subcontractors and main contractors. The professional team, including architects, can also be involved in legal disputes regarding the tender process&#12304;20†source&#12305;.
- **JCT Guidance and Fair Play**: The JCT Tendering Practice Note 2012 is often referenced in contracts and recognized by courts as providing rules for the tendering process. This guidance enshrines a sense of 'fair play', recognizing that participants in tenders invest time and money. It implies that significant departures from the established criteria of the tendering process can open parties to legal challenges, even if a specific clause has not been breached&#12304;20†source&#12305;.
- **Reducing Prices and Contractual Obligations**: The JCT Practice Note also addresses the issue of altering a contractor’s tendered prices without justification. A case in point is J&A Developments Ltd v Edina Manufacturing Ltd, where the court found that a rejection of a tender breached a contractual obligation, leading to a successful lawsuit for wasted tender costs and loss of profit&#12304;21†source&#12305;.

3. **Confidentiality During the Tender Process**:
- **Confidentiality of Supplier Plans**: Specific information about the supplier's plans to meet the client's requirements must remain confidential. This is crucial during stages like mid-tender interviews, where additional information or changes to the tender documents are shared among all prospective suppliers to ensure fairness. This practice helps maintain the integrity of the tender process and protects sensitive information related to suppliers’ strategies and approaches&#12304;31†source&#12305;.

In summary, in the UK, the confidentiality of information during construction tenders is protected under both common law and specific regulations like the Trade Secrets Regulations. The legal frameworks emphasize the importance of fairness and the protection of confidential information, with specific guidelines and legal precedents underscoring these principles. This legal landscape ensures that while the tender process is competitive and transparent, sensitive business information remains protected.

Originally posted by grumpymort


I was chatting with some random person named Larry who told the same story.

If your info is legit you would give the names of the people who are in the running this is not an issue and not secret info so the whole cause issues is BS that is not how construction industry works.

Palace has had no real interest from people to take over so why would SP just leave plus this is the biggest pay package he has ever received in his current role.

Edited by rob1861 (11 Nov 2023 4.58pm)

Edited by rob1861 (11 Nov 2023 5.12pm)

 

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Originally posted by doombear


Pessimist! I'm older than you and I expect to "experience my rump making contact with a padded seat in the new "Main Stand"" (assuming the prices aren't in the silly Fulham category).

The prices will be silly.
That's the whole point for building the stand.
Steve Parish is on record assessing how much more he will be able to charge per ticket compared to prices now.

 

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Originally posted by rob1861

Your name suits you, grumpymort.

Have you ever considered the tender might be private at this stage and could cause issues for those involved if i reveal details?

Also, you don't have to believe me, i don't really care. I heard it and thought i'd pass it on. You can take it or leave it.

Finally Grumpy - here is chat GPTs gathering of legislative requirements surrounding privacy in a construction tender process

In the UK, the confidentiality of information during construction tenders, particularly for private companies, is governed by various legal frameworks and practices.

1. **General Legal Framework for Protecting Confidential Information**:
- **Common Law and Trade Secrets**: The UK has two overlapping regimes to protect business information: common law confidential information and the Trade Secrets (Enforcement, etc.) Regulations 2018. Information is protected under common law if it has a 'quality of confidence', is provided in circumstances that imply an obligation of confidentiality, and any unauthorized use or disclosure has or will cause detriment to the information owner&#12304;14†source&#12305;.
- **Tests for Confidentiality**: There are specific tests under UK law to determine if information is 'confidential':
- The information must be objectively confidential, not just labeled as such.
- The recipient must know or should have known that the information is confidential.
- Unauthorised use or disclosure of the information must cause or will cause a detriment to the information owner&#12304;14†source&#12305;.

2. **Specifics in Private Sector Construction Tenders**:
- **Implied Contracts and Litigation Risks**: In the private sector, the tender process often includes implied contracts, and breaches can lead to claims for damages. Litigation may arise from various relationships, such as between contractors and employers or subcontractors and main contractors. The professional team, including architects, can also be involved in legal disputes regarding the tender process&#12304;20†source&#12305;.
- **JCT Guidance and Fair Play**: The JCT Tendering Practice Note 2012 is often referenced in contracts and recognized by courts as providing rules for the tendering process. This guidance enshrines a sense of 'fair play', recognizing that participants in tenders invest time and money. It implies that significant departures from the established criteria of the tendering process can open parties to legal challenges, even if a specific clause has not been breached&#12304;20†source&#12305;.
- **Reducing Prices and Contractual Obligations**: The JCT Practice Note also addresses the issue of altering a contractor’s tendered prices without justification. A case in point is J&A Developments Ltd v Edina Manufacturing Ltd, where the court found that a rejection of a tender breached a contractual obligation, leading to a successful lawsuit for wasted tender costs and loss of profit&#12304;21†source&#12305;.

3. **Confidentiality During the Tender Process**:
- **Confidentiality of Supplier Plans**: Specific information about the supplier's plans to meet the client's requirements must remain confidential. This is crucial during stages like mid-tender interviews, where additional information or changes to the tender documents are shared among all prospective suppliers to ensure fairness. This practice helps maintain the integrity of the tender process and protects sensitive information related to suppliers’ strategies and approaches&#12304;31†source&#12305;.

In summary, in the UK, the confidentiality of information during construction tenders is protected under both common law and specific regulations like the Trade Secrets Regulations. The legal frameworks emphasize the importance of fairness and the protection of confidential information, with specific guidelines and legal precedents underscoring these principles. This legal landscape ensures that while the tender process is competitive and transparent, sensitive business information remains protected.


Edited by rob1861 (11 Nov 2023 4.58pm)

Edited by rob1861 (11 Nov 2023 5.12pm)

Very good call Rob. If I were you I would drop this topic now.


 

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Originally posted by rob1861

Hey all, i was chatting to a dad at my son's football match today and his firm are one of two remaining contenders for a contract to be a part of the build of the new main stand at Selhurst Park. I'm avoiding giving more details in case it could cause an issue.

Hopefully this is good news that we will actually see the build happening in our lifetime and Parish will deliver once again on his promises!!!

I really hope he doesn't hand the baton on once the main stand is built. I know we all have different views on his achievements but he has been brilliant as far as i can see.

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Edited by akiisalegend (11 Nov 2023 7.53pm)

 

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Originally posted by rob1861

Your name suits you, grumpymort.

Have you ever considered the tender might be private at this stage and could cause issues for those involved if i reveal details?

Also, you don't have to believe me, i don't really care. I heard it and thought i'd pass it on. You can take it or leave it.

Finally Grumpy - here is chat GPTs gathering of legislative requirements surrounding privacy in a construction tender process

In the UK, the confidentiality of information during construction tenders, particularly for private companies, is governed by various legal frameworks and practices.

1. **General Legal Framework for Protecting Confidential Information**:
- **Common Law and Trade Secrets**: The UK has two overlapping regimes to protect business information: common law confidential information and the Trade Secrets (Enforcement, etc.) Regulations 2018. Information is protected under common law if it has a 'quality of confidence', is provided in circumstances that imply an obligation of confidentiality, and any unauthorized use or disclosure has or will cause detriment to the information owner&#12304;14†source&#12305;.
- **Tests for Confidentiality**: There are specific tests under UK law to determine if information is 'confidential':
- The information must be objectively confidential, not just labeled as such.
- The recipient must know or should have known that the information is confidential.
- Unauthorised use or disclosure of the information must cause or will cause a detriment to the information owner&#12304;14†source&#12305;.

2. **Specifics in Private Sector Construction Tenders**:
- **Implied Contracts and Litigation Risks**: In the private sector, the tender process often includes implied contracts, and breaches can lead to claims for damages. Litigation may arise from various relationships, such as between contractors and employers or subcontractors and main contractors. The professional team, including architects, can also be involved in legal disputes regarding the tender process&#12304;20†source&#12305;.
- **JCT Guidance and Fair Play**: The JCT Tendering Practice Note 2012 is often referenced in contracts and recognized by courts as providing rules for the tendering process. This guidance enshrines a sense of 'fair play', recognizing that participants in tenders invest time and money. It implies that significant departures from the established criteria of the tendering process can open parties to legal challenges, even if a specific clause has not been breached&#12304;20†source&#12305;.
- **Reducing Prices and Contractual Obligations**: The JCT Practice Note also addresses the issue of altering a contractor’s tendered prices without justification. A case in point is J&A Developments Ltd v Edina Manufacturing Ltd, where the court found that a rejection of a tender breached a contractual obligation, leading to a successful lawsuit for wasted tender costs and loss of profit&#12304;21†source&#12305;.

3. **Confidentiality During the Tender Process**:
- **Confidentiality of Supplier Plans**: Specific information about the supplier's plans to meet the client's requirements must remain confidential. This is crucial during stages like mid-tender interviews, where additional information or changes to the tender documents are shared among all prospective suppliers to ensure fairness. This practice helps maintain the integrity of the tender process and protects sensitive information related to suppliers’ strategies and approaches&#12304;31†source&#12305;.

In summary, in the UK, the confidentiality of information during construction tenders is protected under both common law and specific regulations like the Trade Secrets Regulations. The legal frameworks emphasize the importance of fairness and the protection of confidential information, with specific guidelines and legal precedents underscoring these principles. This legal landscape ensures that while the tender process is competitive and transparent, sensitive business information remains protected.


Edited by rob1861 (11 Nov 2023 4.58pm)

Edited by rob1861 (11 Nov 2023 5.12pm)


Complete nonsense copy and paste job.

As I said you clearly know nothing about the construction industry after I had seen your first post I had a chat with some one I know who is very high ranked in Kier and I showed them what you posted they laughed.

People in the industry will know about who is going for jobs its no secret what you posted you clearly have no understanding giving out two say companies names in the running is not any breach.

Yes if people start to talk about money etc that is different matter.

The industry is one of the most corrupt anyway most deals are under the table perks going on.

 


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Listening to Simon Jordan on talksport, on the stadium rebuild. It will never happen, he knows it won't happen because it can't happen.

 

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Why won't it happen i know funding is a problem but think not sumountable and the hard work has been done regarding the planning.

 

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Unsamontable

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort


I was chatting with some random person named Larry who told the same story.

If your info is legit you would give the names of the people who are in the running this is not an issue and not secret info so the whole cause issues is BS that is not how construction industry works.

Palace has had no real interest from people to take over so why would SP just leave plus this is the biggest pay package he has ever received in his current role.

There is such a thing as 'closed' or 'private' tender submissions. Businesses/investors/even banks on large projects often dont want the public to know of their involvement, sometimes even if they are successful.
One example is the largest investor in the building of the Suez canal. Without this investment it would never have happened but because this investor believed in the project and put their money where their mouths were they now make billions in shipping tolls.
That investor was the Vatican.
Now you can kind of understand why they wanted it to remain private eh?

 

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Originally posted by rikz

Listening to Simon Jordan on talksport, on the stadium rebuild. It will never happen, he knows it won't happen because it can't happen.

Seems a well oiled mayor goes a long way . Raising the money will be a challenge when we need loads for the squad .

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And we still need a striker

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