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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

However you try and play with the numbers, the current state of public services and housing does not make such large numbers feasible.

The minimum wage for a legal working immigrant is below 30K, that will not generate sufficient tax to pay for potential cost of public services to be used and benefits that they will be eligible for.

Simple terms, these new immigrants will be net takers from the system when taxes are at an all time high and the interest on the national debt is billions every month.

The country may well have passed a tipping point and whoever is in power cannot fix the problem.

Grim

It seems to be generally accepted that the current level is unsustainable but is due to a blip in the figures because of Ukraine and Hong Kong.

That said we are sill short of labour so if I it falls what happens?

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 25 May 23 5.04pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's you who are out of touch. Most people don't care one way or the other, and it seems more are now in favour of increased immigration to fill vacancies than are against it.

I guess you must live somewhere which has been impacted by something and your opinions distorted by it.

The unemployment rate is predicted to be 5% by 2024.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 May 23 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm just glad I spent most of my life in better times.

I just feel sorry for my grandkids. They deserve better.

They werenít better times! They were different times. Ours were times when xenophobia was considered normal. Some of us learned better. Some didnít.

Our kids grew up in more enlightened times but had other problems to face. They werenít better or worse. Just different. Thatís their times.

Our grandkids wonít know your times, only their parentís and their own, which will seem completely normal to them.

I feel sorry for your grandkids too. They have a grandad telling them how great it used to be and how their attitudes are all wrong. Nothing new there!

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 May 23 5.19pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They werenít better times! They were different times. Ours were times when xenophobia was considered normal. Some of us learned better. Some didnít.

Our kids grew up in more enlightened times but had other problems to face. They werenít better or worse. Just different. Thatís their times.

Our grandkids wonít know your times, only their parentís and their own, which will seem completely normal to them.

I feel sorry for your grandkids too. They have a grandad telling them how great it used to be and how their attitudes are all wrong. Nothing new there!

Enlightened attitudes are no substitute for a more practically affordable and more community and family friendly life. It makes no difference to people struggling to pay rent, to pay bills, living in crime ridden areas, unable to get an operation, unable to buy food, unable to see the doctor, knowing their kids won't be able to ever buy a house, that trans rights are respected, or that people are less racist. People with real problems want those problems solved. Seeing mixed race couples on TV ads or gay or trans people socially normal doesn't feed or clothe or house them, or heal them when they're sick. Expect a backlash: it's likely to come. It will come for you and me - the homeowners, the professionals, the middle class- because you can guarantee that the rich won't suffer.

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 25 May 23 5.21pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They werenít better times! They were different times. Ours were times when xenophobia was considered normal. Some of us learned better. Some didnít.

Our kids grew up in more enlightened times but had other problems to face. They werenít better or worse. Just different. Thatís their times.

Our grandkids wonít know your times, only their parentís and their own, which will seem completely normal to them.

I feel sorry for your grandkids too. They have a grandad telling them how great it used to be and how their attitudes are all wrong. Nothing new there!

It will be a sort of Northern Ireland situation with concentrations of various ethnic groups in certain areas, no-go areas and intermittent outbreaks of sectarian violence.

 

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View nhp61's Profile nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 25 May 23 6.12pm Send a Private Message to nhp61 Add nhp61 as a friend

Net immigration last year 606 000. Tony Blair must be so proud...

 

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MrWhyNot Flag 25 May 23 6.25pm

The Conservatives went to the country with a manifesto commitment pledge to reduce net migration four times. They just tell their voters what they want to hear and they fall in line.

The messaging to non EU immigrants was always very different. It was obvious all along that we were trading one type of immigration for another with Brexit.

"Feb 23, 2016

Priti Patel, Britainís minister of state for employment, believes exiting the European Union will provide a ďmassive boostĒ to relations with India, ďI know that many members of the Indian diaspora find it deeply unfair that other EU nationals effectively get special treatment.

This can and will change if Britain leaves the EU. "

I'm not anti sensible numbers at all, nor am I colour obsessed in that process. From a housing perspective alone though these numbers are make a difficult situation - home ownership - worse. Anything to prop up those house prices. No shortage of landlord MPs of course. Funny that. They've had 13 years to reduce numbers; instead by intention they've dramatically increased them.

Edited by MrWhyNot (25 May 2023 6.40pm)

 

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MrWhyNot Flag 25 May 23 6.28pm

Originally posted by nhp61

Net immigration last year 606 000. Tony Blair must be so proud...

For a decades plus nothing has stopped the government bringing in and seeing through an immigration policy that mirrored their manifesto pledges.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 May 23 6.54pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is simply untrue. You and the rest of the right wing cohort that dominate the discussions here are the ones out of touch with mainstream opinion:-

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King's college? I wouldn't be surprised if half those they asked were bleeding foreign.

Attitudes have softened as the percentages go up.

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 May 23 7.20pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and now Sunak.

All have one thing in common.

They are utter b****x, and have ruined the UK.


 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 25 May 23 7.51pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's not serial incompetence.

It's by design and has been by design for decades.

This idea that a country can't police its own borders has always been nonsense. It always comes down to will. Everything else is an excuse.

Yes. That will be the Coudenof-kalergi plan.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 May 23 8.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Government borrowing costs have surged back to levels last seen under Liz Trussís ill-fated premiership.

UK 10 year gilt yield now higher than Greece.

Funny how there are no men in grey suits from the markets telling him to resign isn't it.

I wonder why...

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 May 2023 10.35pm)

 


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