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View palace99's Profile palace99 Flag New Mills 08 Aug 23 4.00pm Send a Private Message to palace99 Add palace99 as a friend

Originally posted by m/k mick

One thing will never change, the old saying that the left or socialists are great until they run out of other peoples money, another true saying is the young if they have a heart are left leaning, but as the brain develops they lean to the right, politically speaking, never a truer word

or maybe you just get more selfish and lack empathy as you get older.
Definitely the case with my dad. A working class lad, who always voted left or centre when i was growing up. By the end he became quite right wing and a Brexit voter

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Aug 23 4.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nail on head.

It's not as though they don't get enough lefty or socially liberal media is it.

The one comment I'll concede for the real lefties or socialists is that they are partly excluded as while all the neo liberal stuff agrees with them on most social issues it doesn't on the financial.

However, that's the same situation for most social conservatives as GB News, is itself is very milk toast small 'c' conservativism.

It was forced to get rid of the proper conservatives like Mark Steyn after establishment 'progressive' toady Ofcom went after him about his covid coverage.....considering how the messaging is changing over covid they could end up paying a considerable price for that in the future.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2023 2.32pm)

OFCOM is hardly neutral, as you suggest.

Wokeism, or what ever epithet one wants to apply, is certainly not about the old left or traditional Labour.

 

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View Mattconrov's Profile Mattconrov Flag 08 Aug 23 4.05pm Send a Private Message to Mattconrov Add Mattconrov as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Good points. Whether you like him or not Starmer represents a more moderate approach to govt, and he quickly realised that to get into power he needs the support of the centre thinking/soft right voters. If you look at the voting over the last 40 plus years of general elections only a move to the right from Blair got Labour into power.
Starmer appears to be replicating this policy.
Whether you liked Corbyn or not, the fact is the 2019 election was a terrible performance from Labour, so something had to change.

I'm not a massive fan of Starmer but i understand his strategy.

The Green party has had decent support over the last 30 odd years but only has 1 MP and this won't improve any time soon.

It appears when a general election comes around the majority of the country vote right of centre.


Agreed. It feels like from what you're saying - is that people don't really want real change Just someone up there who appears to be in control and giving us the illusion of competence.

Boris Johnson being prime minister destroys all the above points I've made. Lol

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Aug 23 4.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

or maybe you just get more selfish and lack empathy as you get older.
Definitely the case with my dad. A working class lad, who always voted left or centre when i was growing up. By the end he became quite right wing and a Brexit voter

It's called getting older and wiser.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 Aug 23 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

Good points. Whether you like him or not Starmer represents a more moderate approach to govt, and he quickly realised that to get into power he needs the support of the centre thinking/soft right voters. If you look at the voting over the last 40 plus years of general elections only a move to the right from Blair got Labour into power.
Starmer appears to be replicating this policy.
Whether you liked Corbyn or not, the fact is the 2019 election was a terrible performance from Labour, so something had to change.

I'm not a massive fan of Starmer but i understand his strategy.

The Green party has had decent support over the last 30 odd years but only has 1 MP and this won't improve any time soon.

It appears when a general election comes around the majority of the country vote right of centre.

Except at General Elections the last time I looked they averaged around 7%, they mainly do well as a protest vote in the lesser elections.

 


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Originally posted by palace99

or maybe you just get more selfish and lack empathy as you get older.
Definitely the case with my dad. A working class lad, who always voted left or centre when i was growing up. By the end he became quite right wing and a Brexit voter

Or you consider itís you paying for the no marks to live off the state.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 08 Aug 23 4.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Well just the normal channels BBC, Sky News, Channel 4 evening slot.

Really we ought to have a LeftyTV for balance.

But we would't be able to have Labour MPs presenting as they are too right wing.

In fact I am surprised they are not presenters on GBNews themselves.


The way Starmer is sucking up to Blair, it's just a matter of time before his identikits make it to the telly.

Yes, you should get your 'progressive' TV.....as much as it gives me stomach ache to say it and I should get my DR stuff as well. Why should the establishment get to keep all the cherries? More decentralisation I say and less central.....Let similarly minded people come together and dissimilar move apart and live within their own systems....The wealthy get to do it why not us?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 08 Aug 23 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by palace99

or maybe you just get more selfish and lack empathy as you get older.
Definitely the case with my dad. A working class lad, who always voted left or centre when i was growing up. By the end he became quite right wing and a Brexit voter

More selfish? How much of your income do you give away? There is empathy, which I'm sure he has, and then there is common sense.

Perhaps your Dad just grew up.....the world when he was young was far more conservative than today and perhaps it's more the case that the world changed more than perhaps he did.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2023 8.24pm)

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Aug 23 11.22am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by m/k mick

One thing will never change, the old saying that the left or socialists are great until they run out of other peoples money, another true saying is the young if they have a heart are left leaning, but as the brain develops they lean to the right, politically speaking, never a truer word

Not happening with Millennials;
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Can't believe no mention of GB News' frontman Dan Wootton and Byline Time's multi-year investigation into his conduct;

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Aug 23 11.31am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by m/k mick

One thing will never change, the old saying that the left or socialists are great until they run out of other peoples money, another true saying is the young if they have a heart are left leaning, but as the brain develops they lean to the right, politically speaking, never a truer word

Writing was first developed not so a love sick poet could woo his girl but for property ownership.

Yup at some point thousands of years ago people who had wealth wanted to keep hold of it and they needed a way to explain to others "This is mine and not yours".

Nothing has changed.

 


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