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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 Jul 23 5.54pm

Coutts have apologised

[Link]

Some background from my days in banking.

Banks have always had secret list of people they will not do business with. In my day I was quietly informed that Robert Maxwell was a no no because the bank considered him a bad credit risk and more importantly a crook although at the time this was hearsay and not proof. My bank I am also happy to say refused to do business with the Nazis one of the few American banks who did not.

Nigel Farage is an interesting one because he is not a powerful businessman like Maxwell looking for funds for his companies. He is just an individual looking for a personal banker to manage his own funds.

It's quite clear now (BBC please take note) that they cancelled his account because they don't like his politics. Many will say hooray whilst ignoring the fact that members of his own family have had similar problems with other UK banks.

And this is one of the key issues, ordinary members of the public related to someone the banks don't like are being blacklisted, sins of the father and all that.

Some MP's have also been blacklisted which is why this issue is getting so much air time, nothing gets more urgent attention then when it impacts MPs.

Anyway the government is going to legislate I'm not sure how that will work as in the Maxwell case I doubt anyone would say my bank was wrong to refuse to have anything to do with him.

Free speech has to be protected but banks also have the right not to do business with people they consider a bad risk, try squaring that circle.

For the Nigel haters just remember a vicar was banned by the Yorkshire Building Society , it could happen to you.

Edited by Badger11 (20 Jul 2023 5.56pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 20 Jul 23 6.25pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Coutts have apologised

[Link]

Some background from my days in banking.

Banks have always had secret list of people they will not do business with. In my day I was quietly informed that Robert Maxwell was a no no because the bank considered him a bad credit risk and more importantly a crook although at the time this was hearsay and not proof. My bank I am also happy to say refused to do business with the Nazis one of the few American banks who did not.

Nigel Farage is an interesting one because he is not a powerful businessman like Maxwell looking for funds for his companies. He is just an individual looking for a personal banker to manage his own funds.

It's quite clear now (BBC please take note) that they cancelled his account because they don't like his politics. Many will say hooray whilst ignoring the fact that members of his own family have had similar problems with other UK banks.

And this is one of the key issues, ordinary members of the public related to someone the banks don't like are being blacklisted, sins of the father and all that.

Some MP's have also been blacklisted which is why this issue is getting so much air time, nothing gets more urgent attention then when it impacts MPs.

Anyway the government is going to legislate I'm not sure how that will work as in the Maxwell case I doubt anyone would say my bank was wrong to refuse to have anything to do with him.

Free speech has to be protected but banks also have the right not to do business with people they consider a bad risk, try squaring that circle.

For the Nigel haters just remember a vicar was banned by the Yorkshire Building Society , it could happen to you.

Edited by Badger11 (20 Jul 2023 5.56pm)

I transferred an ISA I had with them because of this.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 20 Jul 23 6.28pm

it seems to be happening in many countries. The article below is behind a money-wall....but you get the general idea.

the ideology of the fella below (Derek Blighe) is avowedly 'centre right'.....similar to Nigel Farage. His attempts to protect the vulnerable from rapes & other attacks has seemingly put a target-sign on his back.


[Link]

Edited by PalazioVecchio (20 Jul 2023 6.56pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 23 6.38pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Coutts have apologised

[Link]

Some background from my days in banking.

Banks have always had secret list of people they will not do business with. In my day I was quietly informed that Robert Maxwell was a no no because the bank considered him a bad credit risk and more importantly a crook although at the time this was hearsay and not proof. My bank I am also happy to say refused to do business with the Nazis one of the few American banks who did not.

Nigel Farage is an interesting one because he is not a powerful businessman like Maxwell looking for funds for his companies. He is just an individual looking for a personal banker to manage his own funds.

It's quite clear now (BBC please take note) that they cancelled his account because they don't like his politics. Many will say hooray whilst ignoring the fact that members of his own family have had similar problems with other UK banks.

And this is one of the key issues, ordinary members of the public related to someone the banks don't like are being blacklisted, sins of the father and all that.

Some MP's have also been blacklisted which is why this issue is getting so much air time, nothing gets more urgent attention then when it impacts MPs.

Anyway the government is going to legislate I'm not sure how that will work as in the Maxwell case I doubt anyone would say my bank was wrong to refuse to have anything to do with him.

Free speech has to be protected but banks also have the right not to do business with people they consider a bad risk, try squaring that circle.

For the Nigel haters just remember a vicar was banned by the Yorkshire Building Society , it could happen to you.

Edited by Badger11 (20 Jul 2023 5.56pm)

The Coutts apology is quite fulsome and says all the right things.

However, these closures are far from new as we know and this apology could have been done over a week ago, so it sounds incredibly hollow to me.

Especially when you hear that the government was threatening banks with putting extra conditions over licenses over this.

The rot within banks is down to the core.....as the report that Farage received makes very clear.....This rot is about the political nature of the people (there shouldn't be politics to this extent within banks) and it is within all the institutions. I view this as very temporary and not something that can be fixed with 'tut tuts'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2023 6.41pm)

 


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YT Flag Oxford 20 Jul 23 6.42pm

I care not a jot about Nigel Farage, but for a bank to refuse to run accounts for a person and/or their family because it (the bank - or actually some person or some persons at the bank) disagrees with their perfectly legitimate if distasteful political views, is the start of a very dodgy slippery slope.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jul 23 6.47pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The Coutts apology is quite fulsome and says all the right things.

However, these closures are far from new as we know and this apology could have been done over a week ago, so it sounds incredibly hollow to me.

Especially when you hear that the government was threatening banks with putting extra conditions over licenses over this.

The rot within banks is down to the core.....as the report that Farage received makes very clear.....This rot is about the political nature of the people and it is within all the institutions. I view this as very temporary and not something that can be fixed with 'tut tuts'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2023 6.40pm)

The importance of this scandal needs to explode in people's minds.
It is an undisguised attack on personal freedoms by globalist elites. Even the left look nervous.

We are now living in a world that mirrors the dystopia of Orwellian nightmares.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jul 23 6.48pm

Originally posted by YT

I care not a jot about Nigel Farage, but for a bank to refuse to run accounts for a person and/or their family because it (the bank - or actually some person or some persons at the bank) disagrees with their perfectly legitimate if distasteful political views, is the start of a very dodgy slippery slope.

And you have only just recognised that?

It started a long time ago.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 23 7.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The importance of this scandal needs to explode in people's minds.
It is an undisguised attack on personal freedoms by globalist elites. Even the left look nervous.

We are now living in a world that mirrors the dystopia of Orwellian nightmares.

Spot on.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 20 Jul 23 7.19pm

anybody remembers the details from Canada ? was it Truck Drivers on Strike, and PM Justin Trudeau allegedly froze their bank accounts ?

the tyranny going hand in glove with the cashless society. I will always boycott any business that refuses to accept cash.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (20 Jul 2023 7.20pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 23 7.23pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

it seems to be happening in many countries. The article below is behind a money-wall....but you get the general idea.

the ideology of the fella below (Derek Blighe) is avowedly 'centre right'.....similar to Nigel Farage. His attempts to protect the vulnerable from rapes & other attacks has seemingly put a target-sign on his back.


[Link]

Edited by PalazioVecchio (20 Jul 2023 6.56pm)

That's very worrying.

People like that should be getting honours not losing bank accounts.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 20 Jul 23 7.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The importance of this scandal needs to explode in people's minds.
It is an undisguised attack on personal freedoms by globalist elites. Even the left look nervous.

We are now living in a world that mirrors the dystopia of Orwellian nightmares.

Christ. The Parrot is at it again

Independent bank decides to kick customer out for its own reasons shocker

Technically it can do what it wants, unless it gets called out publicly and is forced to wind back and grovel

I don't agree with it but at the end of the day it's a privately run corporation not a community bank.

Besides, there are new rules coming in to favour account holders. 90 day warnings about closure and the right to appeal etc. Although it should be a basic right to have access to banking services regardless of background it's currently not the case.

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jul 23 7.44pm

Although not technically a bank, by far one of the worst culprits for this sort of nonsense is the 'Go Fund Me' Website.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 Jul 23 7.51pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Although not technically a bank, by far one of the worst culprits for this sort of nonsense is the 'Go Fund Me' Website.

Paypal is another one.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jul 23 8.22pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Christ. The Parrot is at it again

Independent bank decides to kick customer out for its own reasons shocker

Technically it can do what it wants, unless it gets called out publicly and is forced to wind back and grovel

I don't agree with it but at the end of the day it's a privately run corporation not a community bank.

Besides, there are new rules coming in to favour account holders. 90 day warnings about closure and the right to appeal etc. Although it should be a basic right to have access to banking services regardless of background it's currently not the case.

Bud light is feeling people power atm. It may not do anything to its profits long term as it owns loads of brands but shows that you can fool some people etc……

 

Glazier#1 Flag 20 Jul 23 8.24pm


It'll come as no surprise to read that I'm not a fan of NF but Coutts's decision to ban him was a disgrace.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 Jul 23 9.16pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1


It'll come as no surprise to read that I'm not a fan of NF but Coutts's decision to ban him was a disgrace.

Yep and they have now made a grovelling apology. BBC misreported it ( really!) but are yet to apologise. CEO of Coutts had lunch with a BBC journalist the day before the story broke.
CEO will go, imo and Coutts will suffer in the long term. What is going on in these businesses? It is getting ridiculous

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 Jul 23 9.20pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Christ. The Parrot is at it again

Independent bank decides to kick customer out for its own reasons shocker

Technically it can do what it wants, unless it gets called out publicly and is forced to wind back and grovel

I don't agree with it but at the end of the day it's a privately run corporation not a community bank.

Besides, there are new rules coming in to favour account holders. 90 day warnings about closure and the right to appeal etc. Although it should be a basic right to have access to banking services regardless of background it's currently not the case.

38% owned by taxpayer.

 

The Dolphin Flag 21 Jul 23 7.13am

Originally posted by YT

I care not a jot about Nigel Farage, but for a bank to refuse to run accounts for a person and/or their family because it (the bank - or actually some person or some persons at the bank) disagrees with their perfectly legitimate if distasteful political views, is the start of a very dodgy slippery slope.

Especially when 40% of it is owned by the British taxpayer!
Government should ask for our money back asap and see where that leaves them!

 

The Dolphin Flag 21 Jul 23 7.15am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Yep and they have now made a grovelling apology. BBC misreported it ( really!) but are yet to apologise. CEO of Coutts had lunch with a BBC journalist the day before the story broke.
CEO will go, imo and Coutts will suffer in the long term. What is going on in these businesses? It is getting ridiculous

Apparently their PR department advised the higher ups that it would be bad for the Bank to keep Farage's account and that any blowback would be very minor - that went well then!

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Jul 23 7.24am

I find it laughable that banks are banning customers because they don't like their views.

Considering the number of serious criminals, dictators, money launderers etc. who have accounts with UK banks I am amazed at how fussy they are over hurty words.

The bank I worked at allowed the brother of the President of Mexico to open an account with one billion or 100 million dollars (I can't remember). It never occurred to anyone to ask where the money came from as the guy was basically broke and unemployed before his brother became President but hey ho.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Jul 2023 7.24am)

Edited by Badger11 (21 Jul 2023 7.25am)

 


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