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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 17 Sep 23 6.54pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Ahamada developing well just not sure about Rak Saki.
To be fair, neither get much pitch time.

 

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View Charles's Profile Charles Flag Forest Hill 18 Sep 23 12.01pm Send a Private Message to Charles Add Charles as a friend

As Villa survived more and more chances for us to score a second goal, you kind of knew they'd stage a storming finish. Whether that would have denied us a point with better refereeing is debatable. If we'd got the draw I think we were good for then that would have been a very creditable result away from home to one of last season's stronger sides considering we started with three of the favourite stating 11 injured, saw Ayew limp off after 25 minutes and Andersen looked to be carrying a knock (no long diagonal balls at all, plus he wasn't at his best).

 

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View Goalpost1's Profile Goalpost1 Flag Worcester Park 18 Sep 23 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Goalpost1 Add Goalpost1 as a friend

Taking off my Palace hat for a moment. When I saw the penalty incident in real time you can see why it was given but looking at it on replays CR gets a lot of the ball. I think it is a very harsh call.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Sep 23 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Ref Watch on Sky this morning dealt with the issue most efficiently by ignoring it altogether. They briefly discussed whether Diaby should have got a penalty but no mention of anything else. Presumably even Dermot Gallagher couldn't defend the ref on this one.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 18 Sep 23 1.54pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by Goalpost1

Taking off my Palace hat for a moment. When I saw the penalty incident in real time you can see why it was given but looking at it on replays CR gets a lot of the ball. I think it is a very harsh call.

This is what I thought.
Looks a harsh pen, but could be argued that CR fouled the player before taking the ball. VAR said he should see it again, and he did, seeing nothing clear enough to change his opinion.
We've all been asking for the ref to not blindly follow The VAR office, and this is the result.
It wasn't a blatent attempt by the attacker to dupe the ref into a pen, so It's a footballing incident. move on.

 


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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 18 Sep 23 3.48pm Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

This is what I thought.
Looks a harsh pen, but could be argued that CR fouled the player before taking the ball. VAR said he should see it again, and he did, seeing nothing clear enough to change his opinion.
We've all been asking for the ref to not blindly follow The VAR office, and this is the result.
It wasn't a blatent attempt by the attacker to dupe the ref into a pen, so It's a footballing incident. move on.

What we have been asking for, is that the ref and VAR make the correct decision. No doubt it looks a pen in real time. Certainly doesnít when you look at it slowed down on a screen. Ref made the wrong decision after having time to re examine it. Villa being at home, crowd in his ear probably swayed it. Donít believe we would have got that penalty if it was down Villaís end after the ref had viewed it in my opinion. I think these decisions should be decided by the VAR but even then we have seen them making incorrect decisions :-(

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 18 Sep 23 4.02pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

Don't worry about the penalty decision. The problem is that Palace don't match the ambition of Villa. They had strength in depth on the bench, we have very little.

Wilf left, Olise injured, and Ayew went off. Our response is to bring on Mateta, put Schlupp wide right and leave Rak-Sakhi on the bench. The Brazilian wonder kid has not even appeared yet.

Joel got rinsed again at right back. We have needed a replacement since AWB left, but we spent £20m on a reserve keeper instead.

Yes we will stay up - Luton and Sheff U are very poor. Will we finish higher than 12th place - almost certainly not.

This way my overriding frustration. (Thought it probably was a pen TBF).

They made a lot of subs, we didnt. Eze was dead on his feat by about 70 mins. Think their fresh legs made the difference.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 18 Sep 23 4.28pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Ref Watch on Sky this morning dealt with the issue most efficiently by ignoring it altogether. They briefly discussed whether Diaby should have got a penalty but no mention of anything else. Presumably even Dermot Gallagher couldn't defend the ref on this one.

Noticed this too. It gets harder and harder to not come to the conclusion we donít count for Sky. They had looked at every controversial incident across the weekend games, including as you say the non handball for Villa, the only really contentious moment in the game, and possibly one of the most contentious decisions of the weekend they completely ignore. It took five minutes to make what was almost certainly a wrong decision, yet Sky ignore it, and Millwall, think they ainít liked.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 18 Sep 23 4.34pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

What we have been asking for, is that the ref and VAR make the correct decision. No doubt it looks a pen in real time. Certainly doesnít when you look at it slowed down on a screen. Ref made the wrong decision after having time to re examine it. Villa being at home, crowd in his ear probably swayed it. Donít believe we would have got that penalty if it was down Villaís end after the ref had viewed it in my opinion. I think these decisions should be decided by the VAR but even then we have seen them making incorrect decisions :-(

The ref could never have been 100% positive after watching it back, and to give a pen that he knew full well would settle the result was highly questionable .

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 18 Sep 23 4.39pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

What we have been asking for, is that the ref and VAR make the correct decision. No doubt it looks a pen in real time. Certainly doesnít when you look at it slowed down on a screen. Ref made the wrong decision after having time to re examine it. Villa being at home, crowd in his ear probably swayed it. Donít believe we would have got that penalty if it was down Villaís end after the ref had viewed it in my opinion. I think these decisions should be decided by the VAR but even then we have seen them making incorrect decisions :-(

That makes no sense. Virtually all visits to the screen correctly result in an overturn. The crowd can hardly blame the ref if England had followed the norm, He can just shrug his shoulders and say "sorry Villa fans I did my best to give you the game"

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Sep 23 5.54pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Blimey, this has to be a 1st, Garth Crooks agreeing with PaddyMac about 'that' penalty . . . [Link]

 


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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 18 Sep 23 8.55pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Itís taken till this afternoon to get over that result on Saturday. I think the way the match panned out it just wasnít going to be our day. The players out injured, Roy missing and Ayew going off after 20 minutes, capped it all.

Then to be leading up till the 87 minute and then conceding , just rubbed salt into the wound. The penalty fiasco has gone from my thoughts for the moment until something on a par happens again like that.

As for Villa they most probably deserved it, but I will watch what happens to them over the coming weeks to see how their fortunes go, and the same goes for Darren England he really has put himself top of the list on ref watch!

 

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