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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 28 Sep 23 8.33am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Five teenagers were stabbed to death in Croydon over the course of 2021. However, a year later, police figures showed no teen lives had been lost to knife crime in the borough in 2022.

The last teen murder before today was in July 2021.

Lives not Knives is a Croydon initiative that aims to make people aware of the dangers of knife crime.

It has moved towards supporting young people into education, employment and training via:

mentoring
roadshows
youth hub
youth ambassador
summer programmes
events

Edited by Mapletree (27 Sep 2023 9.38pm)

I think MAZ on bbs has replied to this. Between August 2022 and August 2023 Croydon had more stabbing (211) than any other London Borough. These are those reported and not fatalities

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Sep 23 9.11am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I think MAZ on bbs has replied to this. Between August 2022 and August 2023 Croydon had more stabbing (211) than any other London Borough. These are those reported and not fatalities

Strangely you forgot to quote the remaining element of the BBC article from which it appears that was drawn

When population size is factored in, Croydon has 0.5 "knife crime with injury" offences per 1,000 people, making it the 10th highest rate out of London's boroughs.

I am not convinced there is anything special about Croydon. The North of Croydon has some bad areas for sure

It is important that action is being taken to drive change and I believe Sarah Jones in particular is to be congratulated for that

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Sep 23 9.18am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

This speech by Sarah Jones is a useful contribution to the debate

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 28 Sep 23 9.24am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Strangely you forgot to quote the remaining element of the BBC article from which it appears that was drawn

When population size is factored in, Croydon has 0.5 "knife crime with injury" offences per 1,000 people, making it the 10th highest rate out of London's boroughs.

I am not convinced there is anything special about Croydon. The North of Croydon has some bad areas for sure

It is important that action is being taken to drive change and I believe Sarah Jones in particular is to be congratulated for that

You are definitely right about there not being anything special about Croydon

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 28 Sep 23 9.34am Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

I've seen on the news them moaning about stop and search being racially motivated and being racially profiled and in the same story 2 Black women moaning about a lack of police presence in their Community. You just can't help these people, they've been fuelled by this victim mentality. Fortunately and unfortunately for them, its only a problem within their own community. The best thing to do is don't live amongst them and let them get on with it.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Sep 23 9.39am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Don’t think that word exists anymore

I said the same thing to Keith Richards, Megan Fox and Zinedine Zidane when we were all having lunch yesterday.

The stabbing in Croydon looks like a 'schoolchildren' thing which shows just how deeply routed this 'craze' is. I don't mean to undermine or make light of the seriousness of it, but it does seem to be that. These aren't drug importers or Mafiosa killing one another, these are kids. Not long ago mugging and 'happy slapping' were somewhat of a 'craze' and as always, it's escalated and become normalised.

It's unbelievably awful and tragic but when you have a city as overpopulated as London, rammed full of different cultures with many of those coming from poverty if not near it, a Mayor more hellbent on extorting the population's motorists than doing anything to improve the state of the city and a further depleting to almost non existent level of policing, it hardly comes as a shock anymore.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 28 Sep 23 9.50am Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

It's racist to do stop and search these days.

My mother gets of at west Croydon and works in the whitgift I fear for her every day.

I'm black and I want stop and search implemented. If I was stopped and searched, I'd have no problem with it. All under 25s of any race should be stopped and searched IMO

 


La la la your mum

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 28 Sep 23 9.51am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I said the same thing to Keith Richards, Megan Fox and Zinedine Zidane when we were all having lunch yesterday.

The stabbing in Croydon looks like a 'schoolchildren' thing which shows just how deeply routed this 'craze' is. I don't mean to undermine or make light of the seriousness of it, but it does seem to be that. These aren't drug importers or Mafiosa killing one another, these are kids. Not long ago mugging and 'happy slapping' were somewhat of a 'craze' and as always, it's escalated and become normalised.

It's unbelievably awful and tragic but when you have a city as overpopulated as London, rammed full of different cultures with many of those coming from poverty if not near it, a Mayor more hellbent on extorting the population's motorists than doing anything to improve the state of the city and a further depleting to almost non existent level of policing, it hardly comes as a shock anymore.

Where was my lunch invite?
Seriously though I agree with you

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 28 Sep 23 9.51am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

I've seen on the news them moaning about stop and search being racially motivated and being racially profiled and in the same story 2 Black women moaning about a lack of police presence in their Community. You just can't help these people, they've been fuelled by this victim mentality. Fortunately and unfortunately for them, its only a problem within their own community. The best thing to do is don't live amongst them and let them get on with it.

I no longer live in Croydon. I had a large extended family in the area, going back several generations, practically all of them have left - primarily because of the negative effects of demographic changes.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 28 Sep 23 9.54am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I'm black and I want stop and search implemented. If I was stopped and searched, I'd have no problem with it. All under 25s of any race should be stopped and searched IMO

I have heard the same sentiments from many of the black community. It is good to hear and let’s be honest, whilst the majority of knife crime appears to be carried out by black youths, it is not exclusive.
Unfortunately I doubt there is enough police or the political will to do as you suggest

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Sep 23 10.13am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Where was my lunch invite?
Seriously though I agree with you

They have a cap on Palace fans at these things unfortunately Spiderman, for obvious reasons.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 28 Sep 23 10.53am Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have heard the same sentiments from many of the black community. It is good to hear and let’s be honest, whilst the majority of knife crime appears to be carried out by black youths, it is not exclusive.
Unfortunately I doubt there is enough police or the political will to do as you suggest

There isn't the police numbers to support a full stop and search initiative but I think the threat of a stop and search + appropriate punishment (15 years+) for being caught with a knife/weapon would be enough of a deterrant, certainly an improvement on the current situation anyway!

 


La la la your mum

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