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Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 24 7.00pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Exactly, why aren't the Left saying that the Palestinians should have welcomed the diversity and enrichment of mass immigration.

It's that famous ability they have to ignore everything that is inconvenient to how they want the world to work.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 24 May 24 7.03pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not in 48 of course they aren't.

However, you appear a little green to the history. 'Zionists' in Palestine had been moving in sizable numbers from since the Belfour declaration some thirty years prior.....all peaceful allowed immigration by the British and by the time of 48 enough numbers to do what transpired......and defend it against multiple nations.

Once again, did the Palestinians have a right to resentment during this? Were the Palestinians right to fight for their land?

I know you don't want to answer because the obvious connecting the dots harms your worldview. However, it's as obvious as the nose on your boatrace.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2024 6.47pm)

I don’t agree with assertion I’m not answering or I’m swerving the question, because I am clearly engaging with it. I think you’re comparing apples and oranges.

The bit in bold is also very pertinent to your comparison - the British allowing immigration into Palestine is an entirely different reality to what we are currently experiencing.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 May 24 7.15pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state.

The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their numbers increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty?

Bertrand Russell

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 24 7.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I don’t agree with assertion I’m not answering or I’m swerving the question, because I am clearly engaging with it. I think you’re comparing apples and oranges.

The bit in bold is also very pertinent to your comparison - the British allowing immigration into Palestine is an entirely different reality to what we are currently experiencing.

The denial of reality response was exactly what I was expecting.

You're seem earnest and well meaning Dann....However, in my view I have to say you just don't want to face up to it.

To you it has to be apples and oranges.....Otherwise the implications of what you support just aren't too pleasant.

The alcoholic is always the last to admit it.

 


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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 24 May 24 7.38pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The denial of reality response was exactly what I was expecting.

You're seem earnest and well meaning Dann....However, in my view I have to say you just don't want to face up to it.

To you it has to be apples and oranges.....Otherwise the implications of what you support just aren't too pleasant.

The alcoholic is always the last to admit it.

Nope, I just disagree - I appreciate you feel like you’ve found this ‘gotcha’ idea, but it’s all based on a comparison which I find fundamentally flawed.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 24 7.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Nope, I just disagree - I appreciate you feel like you’ve found this ‘gotcha’ idea, but it’s all based on a comparison which I find fundamentally flawed.

I know, but you're horribly wrong and always have been on this.

History is all the evidence you need.

As is the fact that you could never bring yourself to answer the questions I posed.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2024 7.49pm)

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 25 May 24 12.20am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state.

The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their numbers increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty?

Bertrand Russell


Palestine has never been a country and any argument that mentions this is inherently flawed.

Russell had lots of opinions, and that's what they were, not facts

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 May 24 9.41am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Palestine has never been a country and any argument that mentions this is inherently flawed.

Russell had lots of opinions, and that's what they were, not facts


143 countries disagree.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 25 May 24 11.44am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Because 143 countries now recognise Palestine as a sovereign state it does not mean that it was a coherent state in the past.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 25 May 24 1.00pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


143 countries disagree.

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Is there a caveat that Hamas cannot be in control ?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 25 May 24 4.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

What's going to unfold in Palestine/Israel over this ICC case is incredibly far reaching. The international pressure on the Netanyahu administration is massive, but as long as they have their rich political donors in place in the US they are relatively safe.

The real losers are the non Jewish Americans...who see their soft power in the region possibly permanently damaged. Their 'greatest ally' is really their heaviest ball and chain.

I can only have the impression that with both Israel and Ukraine the US political class still think they are living in the 90s and they haven't adapted mentally to the modern world's power dynamics.

As wall street and their donors ensure that they all get to eventually retire absurdly rich for their corruption they won't pay a personal cost for failure (a feature of neo-democracy). However, the US itself is paying a significant and long lasting price for their corrupt boomer hubris.

As innocent Palestinian children find out (and those Israeli children on Oct 7th), there is no real justice in the world....only the write ups of the victors.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 May 2024 4.36pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 May 24 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Is there a caveat that Hamas cannot be in control ?

No, but it isn’t. It controls the Gaza Strip, not Palestine.

 


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