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taylors lovechild Flag 29 Nov 23 7.03am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

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This article in the inews posits the question as to what is the point of what Palace are doing in the PL. No goals, no entertainment but just enough points to bob along in mid-table. A risk averse approach with limited "fun" as the article suggests. This seems to be the existential question that has fuelled these boards in recent years (especially since the final couple of years of Roy's reign).

Brighton were in a very similar position until Bloom decided he wanted to go down a different route. He's made his money in gambling and his gambles are paying off and everyone has forgotten what they were like under Hughton.

Right now I personally think we have a pool (albeit small) of talent that means we should be being braver, taking more risks and trying to actually entertain the fans, rather than just grinding out results. What is the point of Roy's approach? It may work to get a midtable finish, but does anyone really enjoy the football and his stubborn refusal to experiment?

I don't blame Roy, he's delivering what many of his feared he would. He will likely keep Palace up. But I no longer think that's enough.

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 29 Nov 23 7.51am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

If we want entertainment then we need to be in the VAR free Championship .

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Nov 23 8.01am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Rubbish article, Palace bashing.

How do we change, borrow money we don't have then go broke, tried that twice NOT FUN.

Until we have owners prepared to spend Parish is making the best of a bad job. Brighton got a mention, well lucky for them they have an owners whose prepared to spend.

Perhaps the journo would like to point us to a rich owner ?


 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Nov 23 8.02am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

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This article in the inews posits the question as to what is the point of what Palace are doing in the PL. No goals, no entertainment but just enough points to bob along in mid-table. A risk averse approach with limited "fun" as the article suggests. This seems to be the existential question that has fuelled these boards in recent years (especially since the final couple of years of Roy's reign).

Brighton were in a very similar position until Bloom decided he wanted to go down a different route. He's made his money in gambling and his gambles are paying off and everyone has forgotten what they were like under Hughton.

Right now I personally think we have a pool (albeit small) of talent that means we should be being braver, taking more risks and trying to actually entertain the fans, rather than just grinding out results. What is the point of Roy's approach? It may work to get a midtable finish, but does anyone really enjoy the football and his stubborn refusal to experiment?

I don't blame Roy, he's delivering what many of his feared he would. He will likely keep Palace up. But I no longer think that's enough.

We are grinding on akin to a giant armadillo across hazardous terrain.

In terms of Chris Hughton, Brighton finished 15th and 17th in his last 2 seasons.He likes his teams to be compact and admitted himself he is not the most expansive coach.

 

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johnny the eagle Flag wivenhoe 29 Nov 23 8.44am Send a Private Message to johnny the eagle Add johnny the eagle as a friend

I read that link, couldn't have put it better myself.

 


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Pete53 Flag Hassocks 29 Nov 23 8.57am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

That article aside, to answer your question, yes, we are boring, and does it matter? Yes if it is not producing results.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 29 Nov 23 9.04am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Pathetic assessment of the club, we are a small club punching above our weight without the resources to pay big money, no sugar daddy, no small oil producing nation, the squad has doubled in value over the past two deasons, and who is to say Franca and Hendersen in a years time are players will cant afford to buy, the two collapsed deals was a blow, i really dont know what people expect, if you did a list of how big you think each club is, IMHO we would be about 30th.

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 29 Nov 23 9.07am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

I'd argue yes, it does matter... now.

I hear/read a lot of 'boring', 'if you don't move forwards you go backwards' etc. however never fully bought into it. I was quite happy plodding along, for a period, if it meant survival. If I'm honest, beyond a miracle or something quite genius being implemented at the club, I couldn't see how we'd manage it.

We're in the position now however of our PL survival hinging upon a few players who may not show the loyalty/willingness to stay as Wilf and may become further demoralised if we do not 'make moves'. We have a good spine to the first XI however are lacking in about 4 positions (RB/LB/LW/ST). That's all provided nobody gets injured which they do, have and will.

Roy's return said nothing about the man to me, he'll do his job to the best of his ability and we should be grateful. What it did say for me however, especially when he was extended, is that the board had run out of money, ideas or both.

The absolute ideal for me as a Palace fan, at a minimum, is that we buy for the first XI alongside identifying a manager who knows the score and will take us forward. Once that is done, we can flirt with the likes of the Francas and Ahamadas of this world.

Right now, we feel like a club with a split personality. We tried something but bottled it in a panic and have resorted back to our old selves, purely just trying to eek out another PL season. We have to give something a try sooner or later. As long as it's not too ridiculous, there's a good chance it will yield results for us.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Nov 23 9.14am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

This season was always going to be difficult, and it has been made worse.
We have suffered badly from injuries to our best players on top of losing our best player.

However 'boring' we might be, it is way better than playing QPR in front of 12k.

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Nov 23 9.17am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I can tolerate the boring football when we win.

Not so much when we lose.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Nov 23 9.19am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This season was always going to be difficult, and it has been made worse.
We have suffered badly from injuries to our best players on top of losing our best player.

However 'boring' we might be, it is way better than playing QPR in front of 12k.

Or Charlton, I hear they have a lot of fun in L1.

 


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MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 29 Nov 23 9.25am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I can tolerate the boring football when we win.

Not so much when we lose.

haha, same. When we lose its terrible.

 

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