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taylors lovechild Flag 29 Nov 23 2.44pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I Agree that RH could perhaps try other options when the tried and tested options are out - but he has given people like Franca, JRS and Ahamada time on the pitch, and they haven't impressed him.
My point really was that the gist of that statement was that we are simply treading water where in reality we've tried to push on, failed, then tried again and again failed. Long term, we're not actively out to stay mid table, but it's nice that that is our resting position.
What concerns me is that this cannot continue - RH cannot continue to be reemployed to steady the ship. We need to understand why those attempts failed.

Personally I struggle to see how a club our size pushes on in terms of finishing much higher up the table. Instead I'm more concerned about how do we retain a safe position in the PL but while playing a brand of football that doesn't send you into a coma. If Eze and Olise had been fit all season I probably wouldn't be so down about things and we'd probably have a few more points. Maybe I'm being hard on Roy. With Eze out I'd just like to see him stick Franca in from the start and try and lift the mood. He'll make mistakes, but he might at least add some flair and right now we could really do with that.

 

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Den1923 Flag 29 Nov 23 2.48pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

from my viewpoint, success for me is the fact that we have been in the EPL for 11 seasons now and during that time we have enjoyed some of the best teams entertaining us and sometimes we win. Compare that with playing in Division 4 (we were founder members) or the old 3rd Division (South) and you would very much appreciate what we have today. The stadium is full and the club has a much higher profile than those dizzy days of yesteryear. There is no way I want to be relegated and therefore I can still dream that one day we may even finish in the top four and if we don't then providing we continue as we are, then we will still have the best teams and players coming to Selhurst for us all to enjoy!

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 29 Nov 23 3.01pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Personally I struggle to see how a club our size pushes on in terms of finishing much higher up the table. Instead I'm more concerned about how do we retain a safe position in the PL but while playing a brand of football that doesn't send you into a coma. If Eze and Olise had been fit all season I probably wouldn't be so down about things and we'd probably have a few more points. Maybe I'm being hard on Roy. With Eze out I'd just like to see him stick Franca in from the start and try and lift the mood. He'll make mistakes, but he might at least add some flair and right now we could really do with that.

I dont think anyone would disagree with that ,after the recent run we could all do with a lift . £20M has got to buy something worth watching

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 29 Nov 23 3.27pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo


On a side note, my best mate is a ManC fan, had a season ticket for about 20 years, but stopped going about 4 years ago. Why? Its boring when you win every week, and expect to be winning every game 4-0.

Its all relative.

This sums it up perfectly. Fans get bored, if the result is almost a forgone conclusion. It’s the jeopardy of the result is what keeps fan’s interest, the hope the team will get better.

So, if being financially reliant on an oil state and winning everything gets boring, is the hope of beating the odds financially and developing your own players boring as well?

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Nov 23 3.53pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

When we go out of the cup in January, already out of the first one, and we're about 16th is when I start doing other things at the weekend. I get the occasional surprise on either Sky Sports News or MOTD. I followed far more closely when we were championship.
VAR another factor to endure that doesn't help.

A cup run and we'd take the crap league form, is my main point.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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CrazyBadger Flag Ware 29 Nov 23 4.01pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Personally I struggle to see how a club our size pushes on in terms of finishing much higher up the table. Instead I'm more concerned about how do we retain a safe position in the PL but while playing a brand of football that doesn't send you into a coma. If Eze and Olise had been fit all season I probably wouldn't be so down about things and we'd probably have a few more points. Maybe I'm being hard on Roy. With Eze out I'd just like to see him stick Franca in from the start and try and lift the mood. He'll make mistakes, but he might at least add some flair and right now we could really do with that.

I too would like to see Franca, but we should trust Roy that he's not ready, or he'll be in. He's only been in the country a few months, is very young and is coming back from injury. Give him time. Seem to think JRS is closer to the first team, but now Olise is back, not sure what position he'll play in.....

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 29 Nov 23 8.19pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

I've reached the stage where I find it all pointless particularly Man City, Chelsea, VAR, Saudi, adult obsession with boring sanitised youth football and academies, endless analysis and punditry and talk about money.

The game's at the point where it's literally eating itself.

The absolute worst is going to a live game and not being able to celebrate a goal which was always going to be the outcome of VAR whatever the great footballing brains thought.

I've not been to so many this season although I've kept my season ticket.

Mentions of Brighton being the model but I went last season with a friend and sat in the home end. We had to leave before the end because of the gridlock outside if you don't - so a s*** matchday experience and half the home end was empty despite a narrow win against their bitter rivals. Fvcking rubbish.

Edited by Rachid Rachid Rachid (29 Nov 2023 9.18pm)

 

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Glazier#1 Flag 29 Nov 23 9.31pm Send a Private Message to Glazier#1 Add Glazier#1 as a friend

I'm enjoying every season.

There's always drama with Palace, it seems: we never seem to do the expected, or very rarely.

One time we'll lose to a team that never wins, then win completely out of the blue in a 'no-win' game. You just never know.

It's never dull, as far as I'm concerned.

 

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martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 29 Nov 23 10.48pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

This is what will happen in our next home game against Bournemouth:

0-0 at half time.
Bournemouth score after running us ragged early in the second half.
Palace start playing now we're behind.
Edouard gets replaced by Mateta after 64 minutes.
Palace are awarded a penalty after VAR takes 6 minutes to assess a foul and then sends the ref to the screen.
Palace score.
Roy immediately takes off Schlupp and replaces him with Chris Richards to protect what we've got.
Reidewald come on in the 91st minute for Ayew, and Palace fall back, inviting Bournemouth to attack.
Theres 10 minutes of added time for us to defend.
Whistle goes, it's a draw.
Roy's delighted with a good point against a very good side.
Attendance 24,863.

Predictable ? Boring ? Ain't it just.

You can count the amount of home games I've missed on one hand over the last 15 years, but even I'm starting to think it's becoming a chore.

It needs shaking up.

 

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 29 Nov 23 11.31pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

from my viewpoint, success for me is the fact that we have been in the EPL for 11 seasons now and during that time we have enjoyed some of the best teams entertaining us and sometimes we win. Compare that with playing in Division 4 (we were founder members) or the old 3rd Division (South) and you would very much appreciate what we have today. The stadium is full and the club has a much higher profile than those dizzy days of yesteryear. There is no way I want to be relegated and therefore I can still dream that one day we may even finish in the top four and if we don't then providing we continue as we are, then we will still have the best teams and players coming to Selhurst for us all to enjoy!

No need to dream! We did that already.

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Then, fill your boots with [Link]

Although that was before Premier League (NOT EPL btw).

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 30 Nov 23 10.10am Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

I think it matters significantly.

Exciting football lifts the crowd which, in turn, gives the team a boost. We're 16th in the Premier League home table this season so need an edge there somehow.

It also makes us more appealing to potential signings. If we want to sign the next Eze or Olise, I'd say they'll be far more likely to join a club who play attractive football rather than the current 35% possession stodge.

People keep on about how do we improve the team further. We all know our only option is to be brave, sell and reinvest.

You'll hate this but I think if we could get somewhere in the region of £110-120m in total for Eze and Guehi this summer, particularly given Eze's injury record, and can reinvest it in 4/5 young £20m players, then that is how we end up with a stronger overall team / squad.

It also sends a message to potential signings that if they join us, we won't block their path going forwards, making it more likely.

Of course this also requires a manager who isn't afraid to trust young players so, for the time being, is moot.

Edited by Canterbury Palace (30 Nov 2023 10.11am)

 


We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 30 Nov 23 10.28am Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

This is what will happen in our next home game against Bournemouth:

0-0 at half time.
Bournemouth score after running us ragged early in the second half.
Palace start playing now we're behind.
Edouard gets replaced by Mateta after 64 minutes.
Palace are awarded a penalty after VAR takes 6 minutes to assess a foul and then sends the ref to the screen.
Palace score.
Roy immediately takes off Schlupp and replaces him with Chris Richards to protect what we've got.
Reidewald come on in the 91st minute for Ayew, and Palace fall back, inviting Bournemouth to attack.
Theres 10 minutes of added time for us to defend.
Whistle goes, it's a draw.
Roy's delighted with a good point against a very good side.
Attendance 24,863.

Predictable ? Boring ? Ain't it just.

You can count the amount of home games I've missed on one hand over the last 15 years, but even I'm starting to think it's becoming a chore.

It needs shaking up.

Wow , do you have next weeks Euro millions numbers by any chance

 

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