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View Gribbo's Profile Gribbo Flag Bromley 05 Mar 24 1.06pm Send a Private Message to Gribbo Add Gribbo as a friend

If Dougie goes to Man U do you think there is a chance he might target Edouard as his first big name transfer?

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Mar 24 1.10pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

If Dougie goes to Man U do you think there is a chance he might target Edouard as his first big name transfer?

Undercover agent, I like it!

Watching Rashford and others shuffle around the pitch with disinterest for them, I don't think Edouard would be too out of place there actually!

Edited by Nicholas91 (05 Mar 2024 1.10pm)

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Mar 24 1.12pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I refuse to believe that there is any truth in this.

I still stand by the fact that apart from Franca, DF hasn't signed anyone that wasn't already pretty well know.


And yet, none of the bigger clubs (or our rivals) went for Olise, Eze, Doucoure, Guehi, Andersen, so what stopped these other clubs from signing these players?

If rumours are true, Wharton chose us ahead of Chelsea because of the young talent we'd previously brought in and successfully used.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 05 Mar 24 2.01pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


And yet, none of the bigger clubs (or our rivals) went for Olise, Eze, Doucoure, Guehi, Andersen, so what stopped these other clubs from signing these players?

If rumours are true, Wharton chose us ahead of Chelsea because of the young talent we'd previously brought in and successfully used.

The arguments why are there from both buying club and player perspectives.

1) Why take a risk when you have the money to buy a complete player who can fit straight into the first team.
2) Why buy a player who is one level down in ability from what you currently have? Doucoure was a solid defensive midfielder who we did well to identify. Andersen had a great season at Fulham but before that he was pretty average and on a par with numerous other centre half’s.
3) There is of course a maximum number of players you can have. In Guehi’s case everyone (fans included) could see he was an excellent player however Chelsea had no room for him. You could see Chalobah moving on for the same reason.
4) Why go to a club when you’re likely to finish out on loan at some obscure club and disappear into the ether. You can bet your life this is Dougies big selling point whenever he speaks to players. Come and play for us or sit on the bench at a club that might win a trophy.
5) on many occasions career progression goes better starting at a smaller club and building a reputation. Zaha couldn’t make the step up, who is to say Wharton would. It goes back to the point that when you have billions to spend why take risks (unless of course you are Todd Bohely who buys anyone who scores two games on the spin).
6) Eze and Olise both won awards for best player etc etc and were tipped for bright futures. I think we quite simply took the chance of paying fairly substantial fees (for us) and trusting they would come good (which they have). All the top teams will be interested in them now we have turned them into seasoned top tier players.

Dougie has done ok, but I agree with the OP on the centre forward position. It’s the ones that got away that irritate the most. We could have signed Mitrovic, Watkins and Toney and at the time we were connected to them with more than a passing interest and yet they transferred elsewhere for small sums (by centre forward standards anyway).Bamford, Batshuayi, Sorloth, Edouard and Mateta tick the just about PL standard box, but literally only just and in a league that has at any time say 40 plus centre forwards all of ours since Murray would have appeared in the lower mid to bottom quartile performance wise (except perhaps Benteke’s first season for us).

It will be interesting to see how effective Mateta is under Glasner, I think Edouard doesn’t have the determination to make it at this level. I would guess he might be moved on in the summer.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 05 Mar 24 2.48pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The arguments why are there from both buying club and player perspectives.

1) Why take a risk when you have the money to buy a complete player who can fit straight into the first team.
2) Why buy a player who is one level down in ability from what you currently have? Doucoure was a solid defensive midfielder who we did well to identify. Andersen had a great season at Fulham but before that he was pretty average and on a par with numerous other centre half’s.
3) There is of course a maximum number of players you can have. In Guehi’s case everyone (fans included) could see he was an excellent player however Chelsea had no room for him. You could see Chalobah moving on for the same reason.
4) Why go to a club when you’re likely to finish out on loan at some obscure club and disappear into the ether. You can bet your life this is Dougies big selling point whenever he speaks to players. Come and play for us or sit on the bench at a club that might win a trophy.
5) on many occasions career progression goes better starting at a smaller club and building a reputation. Zaha couldn’t make the step up, who is to say Wharton would. It goes back to the point that when you have billions to spend why take risks (unless of course you are Todd Bohely who buys anyone who scores two games on the spin).
6) Eze and Olise both won awards for best player etc etc and were tipped for bright futures. I think we quite simply took the chance of paying fairly substantial fees (for us) and trusting they would come good (which they have). All the top teams will be interested in them now we have turned them into seasoned top tier players.

Dougie has done ok, but I agree with the OP on the centre forward position. It’s the ones that got away that irritate the most. We could have signed Mitrovic, Watkins and Toney and at the time we were connected to them with more than a passing interest and yet they transferred elsewhere for small sums (by centre forward standards anyway).Bamford, Batshuayi, Sorloth, Edouard and Mateta tick the just about PL standard box, but literally only just and in a league that has at any time say 40 plus centre forwards all of ours since Murray would have appeared in the lower mid to bottom quartile performance wise (except perhaps Benteke’s first season for us).

It will be interesting to see how effective Mateta is under Glasner, I think Edouard doesn’t have the determination to make it at this level. I would guess he might be moved on in the summer.

The Striker that got away from us was Borja Mayoral, i championed him so much, 8.5m EUR, top scoring forward in la Liga for Getafe at the moment

 


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Dougie's job is more than just finding players, it's actually convincing them to join us, among other things. My concern if he went is that we wouldn't have any idea who to replace him with. If United gave him a similar position there to the one he enjoys at Palace then he goes, no doubt in my mind. He'd be mad not to if he has any ambition. If he goes then we have to hope his team already know his summer plans so we're not starting from scratch again.

 

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 05 Mar 24 3.12pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

Huge loss for us if he goes. If they make an official approach you'd assume he's as good as gone as can't turn that down. Awful timing just ahead of such a huge summer.

Just hope Parish has someone in mind to replace him. Knowing us we'll drag our heels for ages, make a token approach to someone and then sign a goalkeeper.

 


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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 05 Mar 24 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I think it would be a massive loss for the club, lets hope Glasner knows someone, because i fear it could be Mark Bright, disaster.

Glasner strikes me as someone who wants to be in control, he must have contacts and I’m sure he’d love to put someone he knows in that role

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Mar 24 3.27pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Huge loss for us if he goes. If they make an official approach you'd assume he's as good as gone as can't turn that down. Awful timing just ahead of such a huge summer.

Just hope Parish has someone in mind to replace him. Knowing us we'll drag our heels for ages, make a token approach to someone and then sign a goalkeeper.

I laughed

Freedman will of course be a loss however I wouldn't panic too greatly. I'm sure Glasner himself if not the club may be able to sort something.

We've had a few great buys recently but many, many more duds. Wouldn't be the end of the world in my eyes.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

The Striker that got away from us was Borja Mayoral, i championed him so much, 8.5m EUR, top scoring forward in la Liga for Getafe at the moment

I can’t recall on this one, was it lack of funds, lack of interest from us, the player or disinterested seller? Our connections to players seem to be mostly click bait and they do rather blend into one another.

Stats certainly look good at the moment but probably missed the boat on price.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Mar 24 4.16pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

The Striker that got away from us was Borja Mayoral, i championed him so much, 8.5m EUR, top scoring forward in la Liga for Getafe at the moment

Another player that Palace rejected after being in the Academy & then went to 'Brizzle', rejected us as he went to B'mouth is Antoine Semenyo . . . [Link]

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 05 Mar 24 4.21pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Huge loss for us if he goes. .

agreed. I reckon DF & his signings have better statistics than average. EVERY club signs a few lemons & failures.

But by and large DF can identify a diamond in the rough and turn them into Palace legends.

 


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