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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 16 Feb 24 10.11am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Looking at the stats the actual winner was voter apathy.

Turn out at both was down by around 50%!!!!

The labour vote stayed stable at one and was down by 5000 in the other.

Hardly a victory.

The Tory vote was decimated by apathy and defections to more right wing parties. Hardly a surprise either.

I predicted that the tory vote would drop when Sunak was placed in charge due to his race. It dropped immediately by 6% and has not recovered. Its sad that anyone would think like that in this day and age. And you can't say it was due to policies or what he has done. It was immediate.

Those voters have turned to Reform.

 

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View Plumpton eagle's Profile Plumpton eagle Flag East Sussex 16 Feb 24 10.16am Send a Private Message to Plumpton eagle Add Plumpton eagle as a friend

Hardly a victory.
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Wow, just wow! Obviously, we weren't beaten by Arsenal, Brighton or Chelsea then.

Thank you for your cutting edge insight.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Feb 24 10.17am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

Looking at the stats the actual winner was voter apathy.

Turn out at both was down by around 50%!!!!

The labour vote stayed stable at one and was down by 5000 in the other.

Hardly a victory.

The Tory vote was decimated by apathy and defections to more right wing parties. Hardly a surprise either.

I predicted that the tory vote would drop when Sunak was placed in charge due to his race. It dropped immediately by 6% and has not recovered. Its sad that anyone would think like that in this day and age. And you can't say it was due to policies or what he has done. It was immediate.

Those voters have turned to Reform.

Tory voters turned to Reform because Sunak isn't white?

Reform in this by-election was represented by the excellent Ben Habib. Personally I think he should be party leader over that liability Tice.

This is Ben Habib.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Feb 2024 10.18am)

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 16 Feb 24 10.40am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Tory voters turned to Reform because Sunak isn't white?

Reform in this by-election was represented by the excellent Ben Habib. Personally I think he should be party leader over that liability Tice.

This is Ben Habib.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Feb 2024 10.18am)

That Sunak comment is very racist and untrue, look at the Government front bench.

I agree Habib is excellent, Tice is ok as a drum beater and is very committed to the cause

Tory voters I suspect stayed home as much as voted for Reform. See what Reform's electoral contract looks like, I would suspect sound economic plans

Edited by HKOwen (16 Feb 2024 10.41am)

Edited by HKOwen (16 Feb 2024 10.43am)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Feb 24 10.54am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

If the Tories want to avoid a massacre, then they need to get rid of Sunak.
The man is a robot, repeating the same lines over and over. He has zero personality.
A simple message is one thing, but he sounds like an old Action Man when you pulled his chord.

The Reform Party seriously needs to up their game. If Farage was in charge they would have a better chance, although, I wouldn't blame him for no wanting to stand again.

Labour voters are either young and naive, have short memories, are of foreign origin and or are just plain stupid.
How anyone can look at the shadow cabinet and see that as a good option is beyond me.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 16 Feb 24 11.05am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If the Tories want to avoid a massacre, then they need to get rid of Sunak.
The man is a robot, repeating the same lines over and over. He has zero personality.
A simple message is one thing, but he sounds like an old Action Man when you pulled his chord.

The Reform Party seriously needs to up their game. If Farage was in charge they would have a better chance, although, I wouldn't blame him for no wanting to stand again.

Labour voters are either young and naive, have short memories, are of foreign origin and or are just plain stupid.
How anyone can look at the shadow cabinet and see that as a good option is beyond me.


Or they're just looking for absolutely anything different to the current lot, which is perfectly understandable.

I've voiced my many issues with Starmer & Labour numerous times, and I won't personally be voting for them, but I find it hard to criticise people who are given the performance of the current government.


 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Feb 24 11.22am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow


Or they're just looking for absolutely anything different to the current lot, which is perfectly understandable.

I've voiced my many issues with Starmer & Labour numerous times, and I won't personally be voting for them, but I find it hard to criticise people who are given the performance of the current government.


I am about to read his tome "Starmer Sutra - How to hold multiple positions at the same time".

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 16 Feb 24 11.25am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I was actually surprised the turn-out was so high.

They 'hate all of us' a labour canvasser.

I was expecting a big drop because of Stalin Starmer, but with a recession piled on top of a country where nothing else works either after 14 years, labour had comfortable wins.

Dragging it out will not change things imo.


 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Feb 24 11.36am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

There must be more votes in Rochdale than there are driving licences. I wonder how many different spellings of Mohammed Mohamed were on the ballot.

 


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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 16 Feb 24 11.38am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I was actually surprised the turn-out was so high.

They 'hate all of us' a labour canvasser.

I was expecting a big drop because of Stalin Starmer, but with a recession piled on top of a country where nothing else works either after 14 years, labour had comfortable wins.

Dragging it out will not change things imo.


SIR Stalin Starmer.

 

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View beak's Profile beak Flag croydon 16 Feb 24 11.41am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

There must be more votes in Rochdale than there are driving licences. I wonder how many different spellings of Mohammed Mohamed were on the ballot.

You will have a Mountain to climb sorting that out.

 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow


Or they're just looking for absolutely anything different to the current lot, which is perfectly understandable.

I've voiced my many issues with Starmer & Labour numerous times, and I won't personally be voting for them, but I find it hard to criticise people who are given the performance of the current government.


Which would fall under naive and short memories.

 

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