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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 19 Mar 24 9.14am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Car54

Rubbish as Normal, Mateta is the best CF we have had since Murray, he gives 100%, has a decent first touch, is not a player Center half's like playing against, his Value has doubled since we got him, he isn't Haaland, but has become a 20m+ player.

Don't forget Fatherken hasn't got over his beloved Benteke leaving

 


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Originally posted by Painter

Mateta?

You would think Mateta should be all about physicality but he's not really. He has improved in that department but still has some way to go - if he's to fully utilise his size advantage. He scored a header recently which was a start.

 


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Originally posted by Fatherken

why the interest in JPM , he is only of championship or league one player at best .

Oh Dear

 


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View Elphers40's Profile Elphers40 Flag Northants 20 Mar 24 9.23pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

I think it will take a bit more time than we’d all like to get us playing the style of football Glasner is renowned for. At the moment it is all a bit “hoof ballie” at times but as some have commented- it is very early days.

It’s clear we’ll need an overhaul and I hope the out of contract player will be replaced with some physically athletic and younger players. The focus needs to be on bringing in some pace - not just up front!

Isn’t it nice to be anticipating some exciting times ahead - I’ve got a feeling next season will be a good un …….COYP!

 

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View Aray's Profile Aray Flag South London 31 Mar 24 11.19am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

I'm surprised there's not more discussion on our new shape. When Glasner came in, I was doubtful we had the players for 3/4/3 and also had concerns that it would suit Eze - who is our best player.

I remain to be convinced. With four at the back we also can have an extra attacking player up front. Mitchell doesn't seem to have the attributes for that WB role - but worse it seems that Eze is seeing a lot less of the ball now he's no longer in the midfield.

I guess with Olise out - we need a bit of his magic up front but when he comes back I reckon we will miss what he did best - linking play to our attack.

Wharton will develop and could become our midfield playmaker but I still feel we're lacking something right now.

Lets not talk about the 3 central defenders going missing for Forest's goal...

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 31 Mar 24 11.27am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I share similar doubts and agree about the system not suiting Mitchell or Eze.
When Olise and Guehi return we may seem a change in approach.
What we don't have is a pacy left sided forward.
Imagine having one to be on the end of Anderson's crossfield passes or Wharton's passes inside the full back?

Originally posted by Aray

I'm surprised there's not more discussion on our new shape. When Glasner came in, I was doubtful we had the players for 3/4/3 and also had concerns that it would suit Eze - who is our best player.

I remain to be convinced. With four at the back we also can have an extra attacking player up front. Mitchell doesn't seem to have the attributes for that WB role - but worse it seems that Eze is seeing a lot less of the ball now he's no longer in the midfield.

I guess with Olise out - we need a bit of his magic up front but when he comes back I reckon we will miss what he did best - linking play to our attack.

Wharton will develop and could become our midfield playmaker but I still feel we're lacking something right now.

Lets not talk about the 3 central defenders going missing for Forest's goal...

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 31 Mar 24 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I share similar doubts and agree about the system not suiting Mitchell or Eze.
When Olise and Guehi return we may seem a change in approach.
What we don't have is a pacy left sided forward.
Imagine having one to be on the end of Anderson's crossfield passes or Wharton's passes inside the full back?

Over the summer I am expecting Glasner to inject more pace into the team. Players like Riedewald, Ozoh and even Hughes maybe surplus to requirements and we definitely need pace on the left.

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2024 12.09pm)

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 31 Mar 24 3.16pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

I'm surprised there's not more discussion on our new shape. When Glasner came in, I was doubtful we had the players for 3/4/3 and also had concerns that it would suit Eze - who is our best player.

I remain to be convinced. With four at the back we also can have an extra attacking player up front. Mitchell doesn't seem to have the attributes for that WB role - but worse it seems that Eze is seeing a lot less of the ball now he's no longer in the midfield.

I guess with Olise out - we need a bit of his magic up front but when he comes back I reckon we will miss what he did best - linking play to our attack.

Wharton will develop and could become our midfield playmaker but I still feel we're lacking something right now.

Lets not talk about the 3 central defenders going missing for Forest's goal...


Firstly, our shape is more 3-4-2-1 than 3-4-3 as both Eze and Ayew are playing narrower behind the striker.

Secondly, Eze was our top goal scorer last season and along with Olise, Edouard and Mateta joint top scorer in the league this season. He needs to be playing further forward especially with Wharton developing as the midfield creator.

Finally, I don't see Glasner changing the shape to accommodate Eze. Glasner makes it quite clear that it's all about the team and not individual players and I suspect that if a player can't adapt to his system, he'll get rid of him. However, I believe that given time Eze will adjust well to his new role, especially when Olise comes back in place of Ayew (who might be asked to take up MItchell's position).

Just my opinion, of course, but time will tell.

 

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Originally posted by doombear


Firstly, our shape is more 3-4-2-1 than 3-4-3 as both Eze and Ayew are playing narrower behind the striker.

Secondly, Eze was our top goal scorer last season and along with Olise, Edouard and Mateta joint top scorer in the league this season. He needs to be playing further forward especially with Wharton developing as the midfield creator.

Finally, I don't see Glasner changing the shape to accommodate Eze. Glasner makes it quite clear that it's all about the team and not individual players and I suspect that if a player can't adapt to his system, he'll get rid of him. However, I believe that given time Eze will adjust well to his new role, especially when Olise comes back in place of Ayew (who might be asked to take up MItchell's position).

Just my opinion, of course, but time will tell.

I think Eze can fit into the system well. He always takes a while to get back to full speed after an injury but had an assist yesterday, scored against Spurs and would have done again yesterday if not for a top=class save by their goalie. I'd agree that he would benefit from a better attacking wing-back. I can't fault Mitchell for effort but he just doesn't have the speed or dribbling skills to get to the byline and pull the ball back for Mateta or Eze.
To my mind, Olise might have more trouble adjusting - although he is such a class player he will always have some impact. His strength is playing out wide and having the ability to put in a quality cross or cut inside and hit unerring shots. It will be interesting to see him working with Munoz as he is such an upgrade on Ayew in terms of speed in going forward
Unfortunately, we are likely to only see Eze and Olise in the team for a few games before the latter leaves. And thos weil be against tough teams where they will see less of the ball

 

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View davehuggins's Profile davehuggins Flag 31 Mar 24 8.35pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

For me I am liking a great deal the way we are shaping up under OG. At last we are beginning to press and defend much higher, this will take time to adapt but high hopes we will no longer let teams come onto us. Adam Wharton is IMO a superb signing who can and will with more experience find that killer pass we have been lacking. Munoz, likewise IMO is another asset. Long to see us at full strength with a lot of talent missing as we all know COYP

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 01 Apr 24 8.00am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I may be in the minority here on this but honestly I think Mitchell will come good - he is young athletic & has shown that he is keen to do whatever he is asked, sometimes his execution has been a bit wayward & he has suffered when other teams overloaded him where we were playing a narrow back 4 under Roy but I think he will improve under Glasner.

 

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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

I may be in the minority here on this but honestly I think Mitchell will come good - he is young athletic & has shown that he is keen to do whatever he is asked, sometimes his execution has been a bit wayward & he has suffered when other teams overloaded him where we were playing a narrow back 4 under Roy but I think he will improve under Glasner.

He is going to need a lot of coaching. He doesn't like going forward or having the ball. As soon as he is given it he just wants to play it backwards. This has to change. He needs to study Munez. He needs to take risk going forwards. I agree that he has the body, just not convinced he has it in him, he seems a nervous type.

 

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