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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 24 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
Its a key part of his progression, not sure whey we should stand in the way of that. Next stop England team, and then we have doubled our money I don't see U21s as that whatsoever. First team football for us is miles more important. There are loads of U21s who never make the England team.
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monkey  Sittingbourne,Kent 25 Mar 24 3.30pm |
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It’s commercial, we had a new kit to sell, and despite the dodgy flag and the £124 price tag just for the shirt, apparently it’s selling like hot cakes
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 25 Mar 24 3.48pm |
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Originally posted by monkey
It’s commercial, we had a new kit to sell, and despite the dodgy flag and the £124 price tag just for the shirt, apparently it’s selling like hot cakes You heard wrong mate, thats Hot Cross Buns coz its Easter, innit . . .
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EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 25 Mar 24 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I see Wharton called up to U21s. I wouldn't let any of our star players play U21s at all. If they really want to, I'd get in touch and limit them to a half. If they're not happy with that, I would think we'd be best off to withdraw them. There are no positives to our first team players in the U21s. We absolutely have to refuse this with Olise also - he's miles above that standard, as is Wharton. With his 5 PL appearances? He's in a squad with players like Harvey Elliot, Noni Madueke & Rico Lewis - Wharton has got one of the least impressive CVs of the entire squad, never mind being miles above the standard. He didn't even make the squad initially, he was in the U20s... he only got moved up to U21 because Mainoo was bumped up to the seniors! I think Wharton is a superb prospect, but he's exactly where he should be with U21 national team.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Mar 24 3.58pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I don't see U21s as that whatsoever. First team football for us is miles more important. There are loads of U21s who never make the England team. How many players make the England team without playing U21? Tyrick Mitchell is one of the few examples I can think of - 90% follow the same progression path, which includes playing for the England U21s.
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| ripleyeagle Ripley Surrey 25 Mar 24 4.10pm |
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What’s happened to being proud that some of your team members have been selected to play for England!! Injuries happen, as Lord Kitchener said “YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU”If I were playing at that level I would jump at a chance to play for my country, even in a friendly.
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| kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 25 Mar 24 8.32pm |
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Originally posted by monkey
It’s commercial, we had a new kit to sell, and despite the dodgy flag and the £124 price tag just for the shirt, apparently it’s selling like hot cakes bloody shame, that piss take shirt should be piled high in charity shops @ we pay you to take it away prices.
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| Spiderman Horsham 26 Mar 24 9.04am |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
You heard wrong mate, thats Hot Cross Buns coz its Easter, innit . . . Hot tick buns according to Iceland stores
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Mar 24 11.42am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
With his 5 PL appearances? He's in a squad with players like Harvey Elliot, Noni Madueke & Rico Lewis - Wharton has got one of the least impressive CVs of the entire squad, never mind being miles above the standard. He didn't even make the squad initially, he was in the U20s... he only got moved up to U21 because Mainoo was bumped up to the seniors! I think Wharton is a superb prospect, but he's exactly where he should be with U21 national team. He's integral to our team. Chelsea and Man Utd have cover, we don't. He has only five appearances because that's how long he's been here. The reason is, he gets injured for the U21s, like Olise did for France U21s and we're playing Hughes. I'm frankly surprised that anyone buys into this rubbish. No one watches the U21s. We can't afford to get relegated because we think U21s is important - which no one else other than propaganda nen for the FA are going to say.
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pssguy  26 Mar 24 12.00pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
He's integral to our team. Chelsea and Man Utd have cover, we don't. He has only five appearances because that's how long he's been here. The reason is, he gets injured for the U21s, like Olise did for France U21s and we're playing Hughes. I'm frankly surprised that anyone buys into this rubbish. No one watches the U21s. We can't afford to get relegated because we think U21s is important - which no one else other than propaganda nen for the FA are going to say. We've had a fair number of players get injured training, it doesn't just happen during games or international duty. He is more likely to progress with the England setup if he plays for the U21 and that will only increase his value
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| MrRobbo Purley 26 Mar 24 12.24pm |
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Originally posted by pssguy
We've had a fair number of players get injured training, it doesn't just happen during games or international duty. He is more likely to progress with the England setup if he plays for the U21 and that will only increase his value Exacly this. I'd expect Wharton will be excited, and will help cement that coming to us was good for progression. Would he have got called up if Chelsea had bought him and loaned him back? This (hopefully) will be Henderson's last tournament with England. England need another DCM. Another 6 months of PL experience and some England U21's and I reckon that spot will be his
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 26 Mar 24 1.51pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
He's integral to our team. Chelsea and Man Utd have cover, we don't. He has only five appearances because that's how long he's been here. The reason is, he gets injured for the U21s, like Olise did for France U21s and we're playing Hughes. I'm frankly surprised that anyone buys into this rubbish. No one watches the U21s. We can't afford to get relegated because we think U21s is important - which no one else other than propaganda nen for the FA are going to say. I mentioned those other players in response to your suggestion that Wharton is miles above that standard, which he clearly isn't. We're not going to get relegated because Wharton plays a game for the U21s. That you don't watch it or find it important doesn't mean that's true of everyone else. I'd also imagine it's a source of pride for Wharton himself, and if we as his club were to prevent him from playing, I can't imagine that would be a very popular decision... neither with Wharton himself nor with other talented kids who might be considering joining us in the future.
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