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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 Jul 24 9.56pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Oh well.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Jul 24 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Oh well.

As Hitler said - You can't win 'em all.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Jul 24 10.05pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91


Unless we assume that Southgate's cunning plan was to merely squeeze past far inferior opposition, score a last minute overhead kick to keep us in the tournament against (bleeding) Slovenia and beat another team with very arguably a weaker squad on penalties, getting very few efforts in on goal despite the wealth of talent we have available along the way, there's certainly room for critique, surely?

One prediction for the tournament, within a few circles beyond just 'England fans', was that we were favourites. This was off the back of the squad we have and the level at which our players compete and perform, not blind ignorance or optimism.

The performances of England have however failed to reflect the very legitimate optimism and perhaps expectation of many, albeit the results have worked out perfectly. This squad is far superior to any I can remember going back and there is an element of 'luck' or serendipity in where we find ourselves now.

The suggestion that a world class group of players, with a bit of luck, has managed to stumble through to the final in spite of a pretty average manager has more weight than suggesting it was all planned, orchestrated and executed by a tactical genius. I'd argue so anyway and haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise.

I'm minded not to go too far to an extreme with either of those stances and just enjoy where we are right now. I feel like we can certainly beat the Spanish but I'm not relying on a 'Southgate masterclass' to be the decisive factor, I'm more looking toward the players in the team and a bit of luck on our side.

If Southgate comes out at some point in the future and says 'this was my plan all along etc.' and is able to very specifically outline why things have played out as they have, I'd very much claim complete ignorance and hail him a genius. I highly doubt that though.

Come on England!


Didn’t get the luck and looked intimidated by the Spanish from the get go. They were far tactically superior and looked in control of the game. I suspect you need the right manager to get you over the line and Southgate is not that. It doesn’t take away from the job he’s done as that’s two finals now however both of which I feel we needed a manager who knows how to win things and have lacked it. No idea who I’d replace him with though!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 14 Jul 24 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

At least our players survive uninjured.


Roll on the new season.

Edited by Eaglehamster (14 Jul 2024 10.13pm)

 


I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Jul 24 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Poor throughout the tournament.

We didn't play a really good side until the final, and won through with a few moments of individual skill.

Southgate is clueless. He picked the wrong side tonight.

Kane has done nothing, Foden has been ineffectual and Rice and Bellingham have been bang average. He should have started Watkins and Palmer tonight. Eze and Wharton were completely wasted.

Aside from that, our passing was slow and negative.

Southgate needs to go now. We need a better coach.

 

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CrazyBadger Flag Ware 14 Jul 24 10.30pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Bugger.

One day we'll beat someone we shouldn't.

Annoyingly for a little while I thought it'd be tonight.

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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HeathMan Flag Purley 14 Jul 24 10.30pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

have to hope that the FA do not consider Glasner. COYP

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jul 24 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

In the final analysis, England were beaten by much the better team.
Spain 'Pressed' to very good effect and England just did not use the ball well enough.
Spain were vibrant and a real joy to watch with their passing and movement.Worthy winners.

 

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CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 14 Jul 24 10.57pm Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

I just wish we would have seen a cameo appearance by Wharton.

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 14 Jul 24 11.01pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Poor throughout the tournament.

We didn't play a really good side until the final, and won through with a few moments of individual skill.

Southgate is clueless. He picked the wrong side tonight.

Kane has done nothing, Foden has been ineffectual and Rice and Bellingham have been bang average. He should have started Watkins and Palmer tonight. Eze and Wharton were completely wasted.

Aside from that, our passing was slow and negative.

Southgate needs to go now. We need a better coach.


Agreed

though it has to be said that there were 4/5 players out there tonight that were well below par . You have to turn up in a final .

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 14 Jul 24 11.39pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Poor throughout the tournament.

We didn't play a really good side until the final, and won through with a few moments of individual skill.

Southgate is clueless. He picked the wrong side tonight.

Kane has done nothing, Foden has been ineffectual and Rice and Bellingham have been bang average. He should have started Watkins and Palmer tonight. Eze and Wharton were completely wasted.

Aside from that, our passing was slow and negative.

Southgate needs to go now. We need a better coach.

Good post.

 

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CrazyBadger Flag Ware 14 Jul 24 11.56pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Held our own for 45mins.. gave GD vindication that system was working.
Obvious that spanish half time team talk was inciteful, whilst England's was "keep doing the same".

Another 'valiant' defeat.
#dontRewardFailure.

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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