Completely agree can only think of one Brexiteer I know who cited the non democratic nature of the EU as to why he voted. The rest were purely on immigration grounds.

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

You're basically outlining a slavery scenario then - one in which all our work and taxes go in to the hands of financial elites, and the only thing locking us in to it is a fear that if we stand up for ourselves they'll murder us.

We have to have more courage than that IMO. How can you be anti-migrant, pro-sovereignty and patriotic, but shy away when enormous foreign banks move in to our backyard, pay no taxes and steal our money when they f*ck up?

Again, I really think some on here have to reconsider who the real enemy is in this game.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

I think immigration more got people sitting up and taking notice of how things were changing, because immigration is and was noticeable. Immigration then tipped the scales into so many wanting to leave.

I don't think it's the main or only reason but it's very significant. I mean the EU laws rarely affect our everyday lives. There are things that we don't like, but how much does it actually affect most of us? In all honesty, remaining or leaving isn't going to actually bother my life much.

I do like the idea of opening up markets around the world but again it won't affect my life directly. The only thing that would possibly is immigration, but currently it doesn't. I think immigration is just more visible than the other things and reasons, and immigration is again something we're not allowed to decide on, in our own country. It reminds us of the rules we have to abide by with a 7% say.

I want us to decide on who, what, when and why rather than be told.

Apart from tariff advantages the one thing I can think of we have benefited from is workers' rights. If those kind of positives are maintained and in the long term the economy succeeds then I don't see what the problem is. Our priority should be our citizens, wherever they've come from, rather than people who arrived last week or next week or next year.

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Maybe Labour should take responsibility of other areas so they can promote and implement such policies and protection.

I remember in about 2002 hearing about temp workers' rights and thought it was fantastic. I can't think of much else. Incidentally that kind of level of pay is now ironically being driven down by the fundamental principle of the EU. Immigration. Scandalous really how they can dictate, bribe and threaten if you don't follow their orders.

Paul Mason was interesting hearing he'd support Brexit under a labour government, but wouldn't vote leave under the Tories, as if the Tories ruled forever.

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Brown sold our gold to bail-out an American bank.

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I can't remember tbh but it was a globally significant US bank, they were short on gold (sold gold which they did not own!). Brown dumped half of our gold, forcing the price down, which allowed the bank to buy back gold at a profit therefore meeting it's borrowing obligations.
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