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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 09 Jan 18 11.08pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Nothing lasts forever and things have moved on considerably. At the time I was mystified as to why we sold Murray & Gayle, but kept Campbell. I still think that was a massive mistake.

Sure Trekkers cost a lot, but Sako was a freebie and he is getting the odd goal here and there. Let’s be positive and hope we get a half decent striker in this transfer window...

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 10 Jan 18 2.07am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

In hindsight.....


Originally posted by spartakev2

Can't believe weve got benteke and remy and were still arguing aboit f*****g murray.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View comeonyoueagles20's Profile comeonyoueagles20 Flag caterham 10 Jan 18 7.06am Send a Private Message to comeonyoueagles20 Add comeonyoueagles20 as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

I would like to hear if any opinions have changed with the passing of time regarding the subject matter of this thread after Glenn Murray knocked us out of the FA Cup last night with his 7th goal of the season.

Any glance of the responses will see I was absolutely slaughtered for what I suggested back in September, 2016.

Are opinions still as strong? Does anybody out there think the OP had a valid point at the time?

Murray has 7 goals this season ( two penaties ) Sako has 5 goals with no penalties and in a quarter of the game time , looks like he’s been replaced with a free transfer .....

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 10 Jan 18 7.33am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

He should not have been sold by Pardew who bought Wicham for Murray to be the reserve and Murray didn't want that, nor do I blame Murray for that.
The right way to man manage that situation would have been to tell Murray that "you start as our No 1 striker and if you continue to play as well as you have then Connor won't get a game".
However - that is not Alan's style and he ideally wanted Murray to leave.
I can only hope that West Brom get relegated
1. Because that is one less place available to us
2. But more because I want to see Pardew fail and at last be found out for what the majority know that he really is - an arrogant self serving waste of space!

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 10 Jan 18 7.59am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

I don't really understand the criticism of Wickham, other than that he's had injury problems. If you look at his record he actually has 9 goals and 3 assists in 23 starts. Some his goals were worldies and before he was injured he was starting to look like a player with real potential. He did suffer the same as Bentenke for his perceived lack of interest at times, but I think that may just be the expression he carries and his style of play. I really hope he makes it back.

Remy never got a chance because of injuries and last season Bentenke had a very good goal scoring record.

I think the reaction to the OP was perhaps a bit OTT, but they did write post that was likely to stir some emotions. Personally, I was thankful for what Murray did for us but I've never wished we had him back. Despite being at Brighton I'm glad he's finally playing regularly in the PL, but I don't think he's the player he was and I wouldn't be surprised to see him benched once Brighton bring in another striker (they've scored even less goals than us).

Edit: I just checked and of Murray's 6 league goals this season two were penalties (he also missed one). So that's actually only four goals in open play. Not exactly prolific (albeit better than Bentenke's one goal!)

Edited by taylors lovechild (10 Jan 2018 8.07am)

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 10 Jan 18 8.59am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Shouldn't have sold Murray at the time that we did, but if we were still relying on him as first-choice striker at this point, it would be an even greater failing.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 10 Jan 18 9.03am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Probably not the right forum, but any news on Wickham??
Im very concerned at the length of time out especially with a knee injury.

 

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View Aolcpfc's Profile Aolcpfc Flag Finchley, London 10 Jan 18 9.05am Send a Private Message to Aolcpfc Add Aolcpfc as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

He should not have been sold by Pardew who bought Wicham for Murray to be the reserve and Murray didn't want that, nor do I blame Murray for that.
The right way to man manage that situation would have been to tell Murray that "you start as our No 1 striker and if you continue to play as well as you have then Connor won't get a game".
However - that is not Alan's style and he ideally wanted Murray to leave.
I can only hope that West Brom get relegated
1. Because that is one less place available to us
2. But more because I want to see Pardew fail and at last be found out for what the majority know that he really is - an arrogant self serving waste of space!

Exactly.

 

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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 10 Jan 18 9.20am Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Benteke's goals kept us up last season, so opinion strong about calling him a flop.
And further it's history, a lot of dwelling in the past does no-one any good.

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

I would like to hear if any opinions have changed with the passing of time regarding the subject matter of this thread after Glenn Murray knocked us out of the FA Cup last night with his 7th goal of the season.

Any glance of the responses will see I was absolutely slaughtered for what I suggested back in September, 2016.

Are opinions still as strong? Does anybody out there think the OP had a valid point at the time?


 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 10 Jan 18 9.23am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

He should not have been sold by Pardew who bought Wicham for Murray to be the reserve and Murray didn't want that, nor do I blame Murray for that.
The right way to man manage that situation would have been to tell Murray that "you start as our No 1 striker and if you continue to play as well as you have then Connor won't get a game".
However - that is not Alan's style and he ideally wanted Murray to leave.
I can only hope that West Brom get relegated
1. Because that is one less place available to us
2. But more because I want to see Pardew fail and at last be found out for what the majority know that he really is - an arrogant self serving waste of space!

E+ a prancing peacock,hopeless dancer!!

 

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View Palace in the Blood's Profile Palace in the Blood Flag 10 Jan 18 10.25am Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

He should not have been sold by Pardew who bought Wicham for Murray to be the reserve and Murray didn't want that, nor do I blame Murray for that.
The right way to man manage that situation would have been to tell Murray that "you start as our No 1 striker and if you continue to play as well as you have then Connor won't get a game".
However - that is not Alan's style and he ideally wanted Murray to leave.
I can only hope that West Brom get relegated
1. Because that is one less place available to us
2. But more because I want to see Pardew fail and at last be found out for what the majority know that he really is - an arrogant self serving waste of space!


My remembrance of the facts are quite different from yours.
He was injured in playoff final and returned just after xmas. Pulis was our manager . Murray played 15 times and scored 1 penalty, Jerome was generally preferred.

Pulis brought in Fraizer Campbell and was looking at other strikers before he left.

Warnock came in and virtually first thing he did was send GM out on loan.

Pardew arrived brought him back from Reading and gave him a new contract. He played 20 times and scored 7 goals. He also brought in Shola Ameobi as cover

Following season as you say Connor Wickham arrived. GM played 2 games in league and scored no goals, he was unhappy at being a bench player and when Bournemouth showed an interest he asked to go. Should we have kept a player who wanted to leave?

At Bournemouth he played 22 games and scored 4 goals. Initially he was a starting player but over season he dropped to bench and was 3rd choice by end of season.

He joined BHA on loan which became permanent in 40 games in championship he scored 23 goals. This year he was only in first team due to injuries and as you say he has scored 6 goals, more than Benteke.

In retrospect should he have stayed? Probably yes, he would have been a bench player but he was at Bournemouth and probably still is at BHA

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 10 Jan 18 11.15am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Palace in the Blood


My remembrance of the facts are quite different from yours.
He was injured in playoff final and returned just after xmas. Pulis was our manager . Murray played 15 times and scored 1 penalty, Jerome was generally preferred.

Pulis brought in Fraizer Campbell and was looking at other strikers before he left.

Warnock came in and virtually first thing he did was send GM out on loan.

Pardew arrived brought him back from Reading and gave him a new contract. He played 20 times and scored 7 goals. He also brought in Shola Ameobi as cover

Following season as you say Connor Wickham arrived. GM played 2 games in league and scored no goals, he was unhappy at being a bench player and when Bournemouth showed an interest he asked to go. Should we have kept a player who wanted to leave?

At Bournemouth he played 22 games and scored 4 goals. Initially he was a starting player but over season he dropped to bench and was 3rd choice by end of season.

He joined BHA on loan which became permanent in 40 games in championship he scored 23 goals. This year he was only in first team due to injuries and as you say he has scored 6 goals, more than Benteke.

In retrospect should he have stayed? Probably yes, he would have been a bench player but he was at Bournemouth and probably still is at BHA

This is how I see it also. GM would have been, both for the last couple of seasons and now, a great 2nd/3rd striker but nothing more.

 

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