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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Dec 18 11.28pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by becky

But for how long? The right to breast feed in public is now established; can the right to public evacuation be too far behind?

This could also help Tom should he repeat his endeavours

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 20 Dec 18 6.10am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You seem to be focussed solely on the economic benefits or otherwise of Brexit whereas most Brexiteers voted that way for reasons other than economic ones.

Just for you though here are two articles detailing the economic benefits of leaving the EU. One from the right wing Telegraph and the other from the left wing Guardian

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That was just some generalisations from years ago if Brexit was handled well with a seamless transition

Here is a more relevant article about economic impact about to hit us. This is the here and now

[Link]

Medical shortages
Lorries backed up to Maidstone
10% fall in growth
Industry harmed due to supply chain issues
9bn extra cost to businesses in Tariffs

oh and thousands of flights cancelled

[Link]

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Dec 18 6.29am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

That was just some generalisations from years ago if Brexit was handled well with a seamless transition

Here is a more relevant article about economic impact about to hit us. This is the here and now

[Link]

Medical shortages
Lorries backed up to Maidstone
10% fall in growth
Industry harmed due to supply chain issues
9bn extra cost to businesses in Tariffs

oh and thousands of flights cancelled

[Link]

Wow. Project Fear is really going into overdrive now

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 20 Dec 18 7.13am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Wow. Project Fear is really going into overdrive now

Silly label designed to curtail meaningful detailed discussion

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Dec 18 7.44am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Silly label designed to curtail meaningful detailed discussion

I disagree as I think that it's a very appropriate label when used by either side to incite fear if they don't get their own way

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 20 Dec 18 8.16am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Wow. Project Fear is really going into overdrive now

Or, in more common parlance, "bollocks".

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Dec 18 8.31am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

That was just some generalisations from years ago if Brexit was handled well with a seamless transition

Here is a more relevant article about economic impact about to hit us. This is the here and now

[Link]

Medical shortages
Lorries backed up to Maidstone
10% fall in growth
Industry harmed due to supply chain issues
9bn extra cost to businesses in Tariffs

oh and thousands of flights cancelled

[Link]

Lock yourself in at home, without WiFi.

 


COYP

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chateauferret Flag 20 Dec 18 9.39am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Lock yourself in at home, without WiFi.

You don't need Brexit to get thousands of flights cancelled; an idiot with a couple of drones could do it. Or someone nicking the "statellite controller dish" from the end of the runway.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 20 Dec 18 9.47am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I disagree as I think that it's a very appropriate label when used by either side to incite fear if they don't get their own way

Oh really

So people that wish to remain are regularly using the label? I hadn't noticed.

You have used it as a shorthand in order to incite fear that your political opponents are using scaremongering tactics that are without real merit.

I would not do so, I would argue point for point which is what I have been doing.

As an ex lorry driver I am sure the ports will be a huge issue should we leave the EU, especially if that is done quickly. I have watched the successful changes in how goods are handled at ports over the past decades and can still remember how it used to be - which was dreadful. And not because of technology, everything was just complex.

As someone interested in agriculture I know this will create a huge change in farming which in my opinion will be for the worse.

As someone working in the City I am alarmed and astounded by the shear volume of top jobs that are moving out to other EU countries in advance of Brexit

As an ex HR Director in the Healthcare industry, I know that many of the 9% of EU workers in the NHS will move to other countries, I watched the recruitment market change last year. I also know that in the end we shall need just as many immigrant workers across all aspects of healthcare.

As an ex HR Director in Private Equity I am deeply aware of how hard it is to hire e.g. good mathematicians in the UK. I used to get them mostly from Romania and Italy, where the education system favours Maths.

The effects of Brexit certainly will not be to reduce immigration dramatically in the medium term as we would cripple the country. We will simply have to look more broadly.

As a father I have children that wish to work freely across Europe and who already travel to a variety of EU countries regularly. Again, I remember how hard it used to be to get work permits and I know how hard it is to get EU work permits for non-EU citizens at the moment. I was working in Luxembourg trying to hire Russian, US and Chinese citizens so I do know what I am talking about.

These are all things I have seen and on which I have commented. Presumably I am operating 'project fear' - simply trying to stamp my feet to get my way.

I have argued before that any form of labelling (for example left and right) is not only lazy stereotyping it is also destructive of proper debate and the search for common ground. I stand by that argument.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 20 Dec 18 9.58am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh really

So people that wish to remain are regularly using the label? I hadn't noticed.

You have used it as a shorthand in order to incite fear that your political opponents are using scaremongering tactics that are without real merit.

I would not do so, I would argue point for point which is what I have been doing.

As an ex lorry driver I am sure the ports will be a huge issue should we leave the EU, especially if that is done quickly. I have watched the successful changes in how goods are handled at ports over the past decades and can still remember how it used to be - which was dreadful. And not because of technology, everything was just complex.

As someone interested in agriculture I know this will create a huge change in farming which in my opinion will be for the worse.

As someone working in the City I am alarmed and astounded by the shear volume of top jobs that are moving out to other EU countries in advance of Brexit

As an ex HR Director in the Healthcare industry, I know that many of the 9% of EU workers in the NHS will move to other countries, I watched the recruitment market change last year. I also know that in the end we shall need just as many immigrant workers across all aspects of healthcare.

As an ex HR Director in Private Equity I am deeply aware of how hard it is to hire e.g. good mathematicians in the UK. I used to get them mostly from Romania and Italy, where the education system favours Maths.

The effects of Brexit certainly will not be to reduce immigration dramatically in the medium term as we would cripple the country. We will simply have to look more broadly.

As a father I have children that wish to work freely across Europe and who already travel to a variety of EU countries regularly. Again, I remember how hard it used to be to get work permits and I know how hard it is to get EU work permits for non-EU citizens at the moment. I was working in Luxembourg trying to hire Russian, US and Chinese citizens so I do know what I am talking about.

These are all things I have seen and on which I have commented. Presumably I am operating 'project fear' - simply trying to stamp my feet to get my way.

I have argued before that any form of labelling (for example left and right) is not only lazy stereotyping it is also destructive of proper debate and the search for common ground. I stand by that argument.

Do you still get a hankering for the odd Yorkie? And did you have sex with innumerable blonde, nubile hitch hikers?

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Dec 18 10.00am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I suggest companies look beyond the old school tie approach, red brick universities only or nepotism and then they won’t need to hire from bl00dy Romania for a Maths graduate.

I also suggest we start investing in training for Uk born nurses and while we’re at it, every other industry we’ve tried to avoid investing in and instead have recruited cheaply from abroad. It doesn’t take a mathematician to see that is unsustainable.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Dec 18 10.01am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Do you still get a hankering for the odd Yorkie? And did you have sex with innumerable blonde, nubile hitch hikers?

Just sex with the hedgehogs.

 


COYP

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