Believe me, I understood the point entirely. We are now going to have another day vilifying Trump supporters rather than talking about Biden's campaign or his policies. Playing directly into Trump's hands. Biden has been a dreadful candidate.

Instead they insist on taking the moral high ground on everything, and ignoring their own huge flaws and ignoring peoples genuine concerns which only pushes people to the extremes.

Why is there so much outrage from Democrats from this and so little over the riots that have been happening all over the states? It's almost inevitable that something like this was going to happen. Just like how the EDL came out to protect statues.

It seems like the Democrats are trying to evoke project fear. Promoting stories about businesses in Manhattan boarding up their shop fronts, completely ignoring the fact that rioting has been happening in America for months. None of this criticism will stick until they get their own house in order. Negative campaigning always fails.

I think you are completely missing the point.

Just because the campaigns have been run differently doesn't mean Biden hasn't campaigned. We don't get to see the TV advertising. We just get to see pictures of huge repetitive Trump rallies, without any kind of precautions in place and much smaller, safer, ones from Biden. Those images are what matter. The TV adverts no doubt hammer home the point and by all accounts, Biden has spent much more than Trump.

The detail of Biden's plans is not on the ballot for most people. They know he represents a return to normality and that's enough. What is on there is Trump himself and the need to get rid of him. For many, almost anyone else would get their vote.

Biden adopting a low profile and allowing Trump to condemn himself just by being Trump is a clever tactic. You see it as negative but it isn't at all. It's understanding what concerns most people. Towards the end he has shown himself more and laid to rest the idea he isn't up to it.

There is fear in the USA. It's not a project. It's real and it's being encouraged by Trump.

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Put me down as a political cynic because we have a situation in both the UK and USA where the need to win at all costs results in individuals who ill qualified for their positions, heading their parties without the true leadership skills needed to run their countries.

Both men are liars and lack morality, both men are miles away from being statemen.

Biden may be flawed but at least he may give his country back some respect and respite from its current laughing stock status.

Nothing to do with any of the above and no longer relevant but Corbyn is another example of someone without leadership skills

I completely disagree with you on Biden's campaign strategy. He's aiming to become then most powerful man in the world and his plan to get there is not offer any opinions. Hardly seems like leadership.

The way to win elections is to run a positive campaign and dominate the press. During Brexit, Boris and Co completely controlled the narrative throughout. Trumps doing the same here.

There seems to be nothing positive, not like Make America Great Again, Take Back Control, Yes We Can, New Labour:New Britain.

They tried the same strategy with Kelly against Bush in 2004 and lost. May tired a low key campaign against Corbyn in 2017 and f***ed up.

Its the wrong candidate and wrong campaign. Beating Trump shouldn't be that hard if they just got their act together.

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