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 Spiderman Online  Horsham 20 Nov 20 7.24am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
First Four Seasons Total Landscaping, now this: Rudy's hair dye, running down his face. Utterly pathetic. Aren't you right wing folks embarrassed by this s*** show? Rudy is one of your leaders!! f***ing embarrassing. Rudy is not one of my leaders, as I am neither from America or a member of the Republican Party, so not sure how you reach that conclusion.
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| Spiderman Online Horsham 20 Nov 20 7.25am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Which is why all this batsh*t crazy nonsense about the election being rigged is even more nuts. If you’re going to rig something, rig it properly at least. Should have taken advice from Alex Ferguson
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| W12 20 Nov 20 9.12am | |
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There is clearly a plethora of evidence of mass voting fraud in favour of the democrats. A lot of this is already available in detail online but lots to follow it seems. The case for Trump is as follows: 1. They have proof of enough constitutional violations and illegal votes that they can call the election for Trump once those votes are tossed out. 2. They have further proof of outright fraud (digital or otherwise) based on statistical probability and backed up by both eyewitness testimony and Dominion whistle-blowers. Some of these witnesses are democrats disgusted by what was going on. 3. They have evidence of hostile foreign involvement in the creation and administration of the software used to carry thus out. 4. That the sum total of evidence points to a coordination of effort across several states by bad actors in a criminal enterprise and that this may reach all the way up to the Biden campaign. Trump should refuse to conceded and arrest the entire DNC for sedition and treason. Arrests and executions to follow. Then he could get started on the rest of the scum. I hope the Democrats are worried. They have spent 4 years not accepting a democratic vote and now don't like it when the roles are reversed despite the fact they had to engineer a win for the most unpopular candidate in living memory. Yeah, but lets just focus on Rudy Giuliani's hair.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Nov 20 9.47am |
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Originally posted by W12
There is clearly a plethora of evidence of mass voting fraud in favour of the democrats. A lot of this is already available in detail online but lots to follow it seems. The case for Trump is as follows: 1. They have proof of enough constitutional violations and illegal votes that they can call the election for Trump once those votes are tossed out. 2. They have further proof of outright fraud (digital or otherwise) based on statistical probability and backed up by both eyewitness testimony and Dominion whistle-blowers. Some of these witnesses are democrats disgusted by what was going on. 3. They have evidence of hostile foreign involvement in the creation and administration of the software used to carry thus out. 4. That the sum total of evidence points to a coordination of effort across several states by bad actors in a criminal enterprise and that this may reach all the way up to the Biden campaign. Trump should refuse to conceded and arrest the entire DNC for sedition and treason. Arrests and executions to follow. Then he could get started on the rest of the scum. I hope the Democrats are worried. They have spent 4 years not accepting a democratic vote and now don't like it when the roles are reversed despite the fact they had to engineer a win for the most unpopular candidate in living memory. Yeah, but lets just focus on Rudy Giuliani's hair. Yeah, I know. He's winning all his lawsuits. The evidence is overwhelming.
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| W12 20 Nov 20 9.51am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Yeah, I know. He's winning all his lawsuits. The evidence is overwhelming. As expected, they are democrat courts and it's just part of the process of getting past the state legislature to the supreme court. Obviously corporate media will not report this.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Nov 20 9.57am |
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Originally posted by W12
As expected, they are democrat courts and it's just part of the process of getting past the state legislature to the supreme court. Obviously corporate media will not report this. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. If this is true, there will be credible evidence, that even a biased court system (allegedly) won't be able to suppress. I wouldn't get your hopes up. People are being offered and paid a lot of cash by the Trump team for 'tips' and 'evidence'. Also you're not the only one that reads circumstantial propaganda (eg. Gnews, Brietbart, Redstate etc). The difference is I read both 'sides' of the spectrum and don't have a belief system that means I take anything that suits my own views as gospel. Also, bias works both ways, which people on 'sides' always seem to lose sight of. Dem courts may well be more sympathetic to Dem ideologies. But Republican courts, of course, are absolutely not. Edited by SW19 CPFC (20 Nov 2020 9.57am) Edited by SW19 CPFC (20 Nov 2020 9.59am)
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Nov 20 10.11am |
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Originally posted by W12
As expected, they are democrat courts and it's just part of the process of getting past the state legislature to the supreme court. Obviously corporate media will not report this. Also your assertion that 'corporate media will not report this' is complete rubbish. A simple google search of 'Dominion voting fraud' shows articles published over the last 12 hours by NY Times And so on. As to whether it's front page news? Sure, it's not. But if I was editor I'd only put this on my front page if there was irrefutable, and credible evidence available. Clearly, so far, there is none. A genuine story like this would drive insane traffic, and therefore increase monetisation. It would also be one of the biggest stories ever broken. As much as you want it to be true, currently all rational signs point to FAIL. Lemmings do exist on both 'sides'. That much is evident. It's also not escaped my attention that a certain QAnon appear to be heavily invested in driving this particular topic.
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| W12 20 Nov 20 11.02am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Also your assertion that 'corporate media will not report this' is complete rubbish. A simple google search of 'Dominion voting fraud' shows articles published over the last 12 hours by NY Times And so on. As to whether it's front page news? Sure, it's not. But if I was editor I'd only put this on my front page if there was irrefutable, and credible evidence available. Clearly, so far, there is none. A genuine story like this would drive insane traffic, and therefore increase monetisation. It would also be one of the biggest stories ever broken. As much as you want it to be true, currently all rational signs point to FAIL. Lemmings do exist on both 'sides'. That much is evident. It's also not escaped my attention that a certain QAnon appear to be heavily invested in driving this particular topic. Yeah isn't it funny how Google will just randomly throw up articles by explicitly left wing bias news corporations that will then "fact check" and "debunk" anything that goes contrary to the only acceptable narrative. Welcome to the post truth era.
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| W12 20 Nov 20 11.08am | |
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And when is the last time any of them gave a s*** about "monetisation"? All of these organisations are losing viewership/readership because they are increasingly less trusted. Big media is on it's last legs.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Nov 20 11.51am |
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Originally posted by W12
Yeah isn't it funny how Google will just randomly throw up articles by explicitly left wing bias news corporations that will then "fact check" and "debunk" anything that goes contrary to the only acceptable narrative. Welcome to the post truth era. I was responding to your incorrect claim that this was not reported in 'corporate media'. As for whether the content of said articles matched your opinions, is moot. Evidence and provable events usually change the 'accepted narrative'. So, I wait for the factual splendour of these currently unproven claims to come to light. I have a feeling I will be waiting a long time. 'Big media is on its last legs' – partly true. Certainly in its historical manifestation, anyway. But is it/will it die? Not anytime soon. Adapting. Also, just because anyone can claim to be a 'journalist' these days, does not mean every single source of information is credible. Something people on both 'sides' of the spectrum would do well to remember. The irony of wanting these cases to get to the supreme court because the dem courts are biased is hilarious, considering there is a 6-3 republican balance in the supreme court. But again, of course, republicans aren't biased, dems are. They both are likely to be to some extent, but because you're so desperate for a 'win' you'll take it any way you can without recognising the rank hypocrisy of your opinion. Good old partisan nonsense. Dems good, republicans bad. Dems bad, republicans good. Complete dross
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Nov 20 12.02pm |
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Originally posted by W12
And when is the last time any of them gave a s*** about "monetisation"? All of these organisations are losing viewership/readership because they are increasingly less trusted. Big media is on it's last legs. Er – as you well know, it's literally their business model. In fact, it's the business model of pretty much any corporate or indy 'news' outlet, be it the mail, the guardian, fox, red state, brietbart etc. And no clicks means no cash, which means no site. Sooooo I think it's pretty important to them. As to whether this leads to better journalism as a result? I'd say no. The internet age has f***ed that. There are less and less examples of good, well thought through articles – replaced by quick win headline driven clickbait, and that's across the spectrum. It's not just exclusive to the mail. It's seductive for anyone working in that industry. Personally I don't really care where I get my news from, I cross reference on the important stuff and make an informed opinion, but I avoid getting it all from one outlet. Something a lot of people would do well to understand. There be dragons.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 20 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by W12
There is clearly a plethora of evidence of mass voting fraud in favour of the democrats. A lot of this is already available in detail online but lots to follow it seems. The case for Trump is as follows: 1. They have proof of enough constitutional violations and illegal votes that they can call the election for Trump once those votes are tossed out. 2. They have further proof of outright fraud (digital or otherwise) based on statistical probability and backed up by both eyewitness testimony and Dominion whistle-blowers. Some of these witnesses are democrats disgusted by what was going on. 3. They have evidence of hostile foreign involvement in the creation and administration of the software used to carry thus out. 4. That the sum total of evidence points to a coordination of effort across several states by bad actors in a criminal enterprise and that this may reach all the way up to the Biden campaign. Trump should refuse to conceded and arrest the entire DNC for sedition and treason. Arrests and executions to follow. Then he could get started on the rest of the scum. I hope the Democrats are worried. They have spent 4 years not accepting a democratic vote and now don't like it when the roles are reversed despite the fact they had to engineer a win for the most unpopular candidate in living memory. Yeah, but lets just focus on Rudy Giuliani's hair. That diatribe could have been copied and pasted from one of the Trump-supporting forums I keep an eye on. They are full of evidenceless assertions such as these, which bear no resemblance to the known facts. I am constantly surprised at the level of gullibility on display in the USA and the way people have become conditioned to accepting this kind of thing without any actual evidence. I am though very disappointed to see it being promoted in the UK. Surely we are more objective and level headed than this?
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