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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Dec 20 11.55am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Come off it Wisbech. The EU only has one ultimate ambition. The centralisation of power. If you are too short sighted to see that then it explains a lot about your other opinions.

The inevitable consequence of globalisation will be fewer people with greater power over more people. A sort of planet wide communism where 99% of people become equally poor.

Why do you always attach negative motivations to people who you have decided to dislike? Any "short-sightedness" here emanates entirely from you.

The EU has no such ambition at all. It's ambition is security and prosperity for it's people. The over-riding principle is, which ought never be forgotten, subsidiarity.

Sometimes that means things being done centrally when it is better to do so. When they are better done locally then they will be. That may well mean that in the future some countries in the EU decide to combine their political systems. That will be up to each country to decide. It cannot be imposed by the EU. There was never the slightest chance of the UK wanting to combine with anyone else.

Your warped view of globalism is one I find all over right-wing sites based in the USA. Globalism was indeed inevitable but it does not and cannot replace the nation-state. How they control, and in particular tax, multinationals who operate in their area, is something we are now beginning to see being reviewed more aggressively. It is yet another example of where leaving the EU weakens our position.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Dec 20 2.50pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Post Brexit I see housing as the real litmus test. Even at this time when people are in financial dire straits house prices go up and up. Now that we have control over our borders, that's certainly one box ticked in terms of combatting a generation being priced out. My concern though is that while we've peeled away one layer of government (EU) control, it will still prove to be one layer too many. Our own politicians and parties are chock-full of those benefiting from keeping the average hard working man on the hamster wheel, and our sons and daughters spending decades paying off someone elses mortgage. If any party 'genuinely' intended to address this problem they'd have my vote.



Lesson one on day one at eton , how to start the hamster wheel spinning and how to make sure the hamsters never get off-lend lend lend!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Dec 20 2.54pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There's still time to leave for you beloved EU.....You and Croydon could even get the same plane out.



I"m waiting another 2 days mate for all that lovely lolly coming our way, in boris we trust mate, in boris we trust!

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 29 Dec 20 3.11pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Personally I am really angry that my request for a 750 billion euros facility to tide me over the New Year has been rejected.

Just because we are no longer in the EU there is no need to get personal.

It sticks in my throat after all my years as a model europpean.

Zaha to Milan they can stick it.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Dec 20 3.19pm

ERG have backed the deal, the EU have backed the deal, everybodys happy, win win - lets trust boris to deliver in two days, maybe some cash up front to everybody until this new wealth really hits our pockets!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 29 Dec 20 5.26pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


I"m waiting another 2 days mate for all that lovely lolly coming our way, in boris we trust mate, in boris we trust!

May not be getting lolly but won’t be losing, until the sky falls in


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Dec 20 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why do you always attach negative motivations to people who you have decided to dislike? Any "short-sightedness" here emanates entirely from you.

The EU has no such ambition at all. It's ambition is security and prosperity for it's people. The over-riding principle is, which ought never be forgotten, subsidiarity.

Sometimes that means things being done centrally when it is better to do so. When they are better done locally then they will be. That may well mean that in the future some countries in the EU decide to combine their political systems. That will be up to each country to decide. It cannot be imposed by the EU. There was never the slightest chance of the UK wanting to combine with anyone else.

Your warped view of globalism is one I find all over right-wing sites based in the USA. Globalism was indeed inevitable but it does not and cannot replace the nation-state. How they control, and in particular tax, multinationals who operate in their area, is something we are now beginning to see being reviewed more aggressively. It is yet another example of where leaving the EU weakens our position.

I don't read 'right wing' sites Wisbech but well done for the dog whistle.

Our country has decided to take back control of law making and the ability to trade with whom we like.
The EU started as a trading block and has since began slowly voting itself more powers. Only the truly naive cannot see where that is heading.


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Dec 20 6.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


I"m waiting another 2 days mate for all that lovely lolly coming our way, in boris we trust mate, in boris we trust!

Come off it; as a self employed cabbie you never declared all your take. None do! I reckon you had your lolly already at paye expense.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Dec 20 9.04pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

May not be getting lolly but won’t be losing, until the sky falls in


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I"m glass half full spider, you"re glass half empty, i"m trusting boris on this one , he said more money in our pockets, not just not losing, have faith in the CONservative leader Spiderman, have faith man!

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 29 Dec 20 9.10pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


Lesson one on day one at eton , how to start the hamster wheel spinning and how to make sure the hamsters never get off-lend lend lend!

What’s your plan/ideas for the property market?

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Dec 20 9.46pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

What’s your plan/ideas for the property market?

Sell one, and keep one Eaglecoop, and live off the one i sell, just renting both at the moment, whats your take on it?

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 29 Dec 20 9.51pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Come off it; as a self employed cabbie you never declared all your take. None do! I reckon you had your lolly already at paye expense.

Its on a need to know basis mate, suffice to say, i have paid my fair share, believe me, and i am looking forward to saturday, we all should be, i don"t usually believe a word the CONServatives ever spout, but on this one i"m trusting boris, we are all going to be holidaying more, eating more and better, and drinking as much as we can cram in after new years eve, in boris we trust mate, in boris we trust!

 

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