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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 15 Jan 21 10.18am Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Having the same back 4 is massive and I think a big reason why we look more solid after months of having to constantly change the backline. I definitely agree about Mitchell. I thought before he looked like he could do with a loan spell to get more experience, but he's come back in and he seems to have gone up a level and he is showing more confidence about getting forward. He'll make mistakes, but I'm really excited now to see how develops alongside Eze. With regard to youth, have we ever had a PL manager who has trusted in our youth players unless they had to? Most PL teams only have one or two youth players in and around their first XI as teams these days have 25-man squads to keep happy. One area I would like to see give youth chance is on the wings though, as with Schlupp now out we only have Andros and Eze available, with possibly PvA and Ayew as square pegs.

I think Mitchell wil get better and better, it's his attitude, he seems to have a sense of responsibility and an intelligent attitude, takes things on board and applies them - touch of the Southgates about him. Before last night's game he really impressed me with how he was supporting our wing play, when Wilf would try one trick too many and play breaks down Mitchell would put his foot in straight away, fight to get the ball back and lay it off simply and quickly. PVA is now our back up left back.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 15 Jan 21 10.41am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

I think Mitchell wil get better and better, it's his attitude, he seems to have a sense of responsibility and an intelligent attitude, takes things on board and applies them - touch of the Southgates about him. Before last night's game he really impressed me with how he was supporting our wing play, when Wilf would try one trick too many and play breaks down Mitchell would put his foot in straight away, fight to get the ball back and lay it off simply and quickly. PVA is now our back up left back.


I would amend that to "PvA SHOULD BE our back-up left back". Not sure Hodgson has quite made that decision just yet, but hope he has.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Jan 21 10.55am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


I would amend that to "PvA SHOULD BE our back-up left back". Not sure Hodgson has quite made that decision just yet, but hope he has.

Perhaps Roy has noticed we conceded 10 in 2 games with PVA, and only 1 in 3 with Mitchell.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 15 Jan 21 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

I see Roy has commented on whether we should continue with football given the increasing cases and the high profile f ups by certain players.

There is also concern about goal celebrations however it’s good to see we are doing our best to help out in this respect by not scoring in 4 of our last 6 matches.

 

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View gloryhunter's Profile gloryhunter Flag EDINBURGH 15 Jan 21 12.37pm Send a Private Message to gloryhunter Add gloryhunter as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I see Roy has commented on whether we should continue with football given the increasing cases and the high profile f ups by certain players.

There is also concern about goal celebrations however it’s good to see we are doing our best to help out in this respect by not scoring in 4 of our last 6 matches.


 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 15 Jan 21 7.19pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Perhaps Roy has noticed we conceded 10 in 2 games with PVA, and only 1 in 3 with Mitchell.

Of which PvA's fingerprints were all over two or three at least.

For me it's not about whether Mitchell is now first choice, but about whether we even try to keep PvA after this season. Starting next season with only mitchell at the club might be a risk, but then again PvA would be pretty expensive for a back up player.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (15 Jan 2021 7.19pm)

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Jan 21 7.44pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Of which PvA's fingerprints were all over two or three at least.

For me it's not about whether Mitchell is now first choice, but about whether we even try to keep PvA after this season. Starting next season with only mitchell at the club might be a risk, but then again PvA would be pretty expensive for a back up player.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (15 Jan 2021 7.19pm)

Riedewald covered PVA's position extremely ably before Mitchell came on the scene; I don't think we need to worry about lack of cover.
I'd let PVA go, his performances suggest that his mind is elsewhere.

 

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View Plaistow Eagle's Profile Plaistow Eagle Flag 15 Jan 21 7.57pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Anyone wanting Roy out can think again, he will see this season out and possibly start the next now. He gets the squad organised and we should have beaten Arsenal last night.

We are definitely looking more solid now at the back with Tomkins and Mitchell returning. Thought the young left back is starting to settle and apart from one ball he gave away in a dangerous position played really well. What’s more he can cross the ball too. Roy just needs to let a couple of more youngsters to come through the ranks and get some game time, and it will be job done.

So let's just forget about the Liverpool trouncing and the farcical performance against a 10 man Villa shall we..!!

Where was last nights performance then..??

Look I thought we played very well last night - even the non performers of recent weeks principally Milo and McArthur - the latter I have lambasted in recent weeks, but thought he was excellent last night.

But still Roy on substitutions - why take Benteke off for Ayew - Tekkers was having a really good game. Ayew when he came on was atrocious again - I just don't see what he adds, he is just woeful.

Last night IMO showed you why Zaha will never play for a Top 6 Prem/Top European side - he was more interested in ranting at the Ref and arguing with Arsenal players than the game.

There was one incident where he wasn't fouled but spent the next minute remonstrating with the Ref and waving his arms around rather than concentrating on the game.

My opinion of Zaha is that he loves being the "Big Show" - but Eze is now frequently upstaging him and he doesn't like it..!!

Last night at times his behaviour was that of a petulant child and that is no good for us..!!

As for Roy carrying on - No, no and no - one swallow doesn't make a spring and irrespective of last night's much improved performance this squad is still under achieving and it's time for a change and say thanks for all you've done Roy..!!

COYP

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Jan 21 8.13pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Mitchel is learning. I noticed if he had to
'get rid' it was off an arsenal player for a throw in. Just that half a second thought before just launching. I think he made 1 or 2 mistakes on clearances last night. Not a bad show tbh.
Better than the early days. Schlupp has influenced his better play by speaking to him on the pitch when they were together.
Going to be a top left back in time for sure.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 15 Jan 21 8.27pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

There's lots of chat and assumption about an overhaul of the squad and bringing in a new manager to oversee this.

However, recent evidence regarding our ownership and transfer spend would suggest that this is not likely to be the case and the changes are likely to be more evolutionary IMO.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 15 Jan 21 8.34pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

So let's just forget about the Liverpool trouncing and the farcical performance against a 10 man Villa shall we..!!

Where was last nights performance then..??

Look I thought we played very well last night - even the non performers of recent weeks principally Milo and McArthur - the latter I have lambasted in recent weeks, but thought he was excellent last night.

But still Roy on substitutions - why take Benteke off for Ayew - Tekkers was having a really good game. Ayew when he came on was atrocious again - I just don't see what he adds, he is just woeful.

Last night IMO showed you why Zaha will never play for a Top 6 Prem/Top European side - he was more interested in ranting at the Ref and arguing with Arsenal players than the game.

There was one incident where he wasn't fouled but spent the next minute remonstrating with the Ref and waving his arms around rather than concentrating on the game.

My opinion of Zaha is that he loves being the "Big Show" - but Eze is now frequently upstaging him and he doesn't like it..!!

Last night at times his behaviour was that of a petulant child and that is no good for us..!!

As for Roy carrying on - No, no and no - one swallow doesn't make a spring and irrespective of last night's much improved performance this squad is still under achieving and it's time for a change and say thanks for all you've done Roy..!!

COYP

Seriously! You use the words "petulant child" for Wilf yet you want a new squad and a new manager. Have a word with yourself.

 


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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 15 Jan 21 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

So let's just forget about the Liverpool trouncing and the farcical performance against a 10 man Villa shall we..!!

Where was last nights performance then..??

Look I thought we played very well last night - even the non performers of recent weeks principally Milo and McArthur - the latter I have lambasted in recent weeks, but thought he was excellent last night.

But still Roy on substitutions - why take Benteke off for Ayew - Tekkers was having a really good game. Ayew when he came on was atrocious again - I just don't see what he adds, he is just woeful.

Last night IMO showed you why Zaha will never play for a Top 6 Prem/Top European side - he was more interested in ranting at the Ref and arguing with Arsenal players than the game.

There was one incident where he wasn't fouled but spent the next minute remonstrating with the Ref and waving his arms around rather than concentrating on the game.

My opinion of Zaha is that he loves being the "Big Show" - but Eze is now frequently upstaging him and he doesn't like it..!!

Last night at times his behaviour was that of a petulant child and that is no good for us..!!

As for Roy carrying on - No, no and no - one swallow doesn't make a spring and irrespective of last night's much improved performance this squad is still under achieving and it's time for a change and say thanks for all you've done Roy..!!

COYP

My view on Roy is he should see this this season out and then we get some fresh eyes to take the team over. But it sounds like he wants to carry on after this season.

Last nights performance was exactly what you would expect from his team, the only thing missing was a goal. Look he has taken points off Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham and Leicester recently, you can’t sack someone for doing that especially after the schedule we have had, which has been beyond ridiculous. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but did we just play 4 games in 7 days?

 

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