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 Harpo  Oxfordshire 01 Feb 22 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Last October we paid our annual visit to Lanzarote and outside Marina Rubicon in Playa Blanca two charging points had sprung up. Unfortunately for most of our fortnight they were both covered with "Out of Order" signs This is true, and part of the problem, but apps often provide this information when you're looking for a chargepoint.
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cryrst  The garden of England 01 Feb 22 5.33pm |
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If batteries last 10 years odd. Where are they scrapped and how much to replace them?
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| Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 01 Feb 22 8.18pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If batteries last 10 years odd. Where are they scrapped and how much to replace them? Edited by Apollofuzz (01 Feb 2022 8.22pm)
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| Harpo Oxfordshire 02 Feb 22 8.26am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
If batteries last 10 years odd. Where are they scrapped and how much to replace them? According to Google, during the life of one array of car fuel batteries, 30 BILLION phone batteries will be disposed of in USA alone. Then think how many others across Europe, Asia and Africa will follow a similar fate, most of which will be disposed of without care or consideration. Then there's all the AA's and other general purpose batteries in circulation. Makes you think doesn't it? No, me neither.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Feb 22 9.07am |
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Originally posted by Harpo
According to Google, during the life of one array of car fuel batteries, 30 BILLION phone batteries will be disposed of in USA alone. Then think how many others across Europe, Asia and Africa will follow a similar fate, most of which will be disposed of without care or consideration. Then there's all the AA's and other general purpose batteries in circulation. Makes you think doesn't it? No, me neither. I think this is one of the big technical challenges they need to resolve. I have seen articles about recycling car batteries and even suggestions that almost daily you drive into a garage and a machine swaps out your battery for a new one instead of you charging it. Anyway that and the range of the battery are the two big hurdles.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 02 Feb 22 2.45pm |
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| Harpo Oxfordshire 02 Feb 22 4.44pm |
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More BS. Yes EV’s are heavier, but they create less brake dust. How? Regenerative braking. In my earlier post I mentioned that EV’s brake before your feet leave the accelerator - the car brakes electrically, and if you drive with care there’s no need to touch the brake at all. You may have heard of one-pedal driving - yep, you just don’t use the brake pedal. We have Formula One to thank for that. They call it KERS - Kinetic Energy Recovery System, which is why many, if not most EV’s only have drum brakes fitted to the rear wheels. But there’s more. All the while regenerative braking is being applied it returns that energy to the battery, thus extending the range on the vehicle. To give you an idea of this in practise; in the summer I drove from Holme Moss to Glossop. It’s downhill for about 5 miles. Not only did I not touch the brakes, but when I arrived in Glossop, the range of my battery had increased by about 15 miles. Win, win.
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| cryrst The garden of England 02 Feb 22 8.04pm |
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Originally posted by Harpo
More BS. Yes EV’s are heavier, but they create less brake dust. How? Regenerative braking. In my earlier post I mentioned that EV’s brake before your feet leave the accelerator - the car brakes electrically, and if you drive with care there’s no need to touch the brake at all. You may have heard of one-pedal driving - yep, you just don’t use the brake pedal. We have Formula One to thank for that. They call it KERS - Kinetic Energy Recovery System, which is why many, if not most EV’s only have drum brakes fitted to the rear wheels. But there’s more. All the while regenerative braking is being applied it returns that energy to the battery, thus extending the range on the vehicle. To give you an idea of this in practise; in the summer I drove from Holme Moss to Glossop. It’s downhill for about 5 miles. Not only did I not touch the brakes, but when I arrived in Glossop, the range of my battery had increased by about 15 miles. Win, win. But how do they recycle them and at what cost.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 02 Feb 22 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by Harpo
More BS. Yes EV’s are heavier, but they create less brake dust. How? Regenerative braking. In my earlier post I mentioned that EV’s brake before your feet leave the accelerator - the car brakes electrically, and if you drive with care there’s no need to touch the brake at all. You may have heard of one-pedal driving - yep, you just don’t use the brake pedal. We have Formula One to thank for that. They call it KERS - Kinetic Energy Recovery System, which is why many, if not most EV’s only have drum brakes fitted to the rear wheels. But there’s more. All the while regenerative braking is being applied it returns that energy to the battery, thus extending the range on the vehicle. To give you an idea of this in practise; in the summer I drove from Holme Moss to Glossop. It’s downhill for about 5 miles. Not only did I not touch the brakes, but when I arrived in Glossop, the range of my battery had increased by about 15 miles. Win, win. Whether it's BS or not, it looks like the government are preparing the ground to justify clawing back some tax they might be losing. They've realised that there's not a lot of money to be made from encouraging green policies.
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| Harpo Oxfordshire 02 Feb 22 10.42pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Whether it's BS or not, it looks like the government are preparing the ground to justify clawing back some tax they might be losing. They've realised that there's not a lot of money to be made from encouraging green policies. Without question. I suspect that electricity suppliers will develop meters, or be mandated to, that separate domestic charging circuits which be subject to differing taxation levels, be that VAT or fuel duties, unless pay per mile is introduced, but then we will all have to pay for the cost of all that shiny new infrastructure. Gawd help us.
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Sir James Hird  Mount Martha 03 Feb 22 2.16am |
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Electric cars will be a pause in the evolution of transport. Even now in certain parts of the world, larger vehicles, ie Trucks, buses are oeerating commercially with hydrogen fuel.
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| cryrst The garden of England 03 Feb 22 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by martin2412
Whether it's BS or not, it looks like the government are preparing the ground to justify clawing back some tax they might be losing. They've realised that there's not a lot of money to be made from encouraging green policies. And the rabbit is pulled from the hat.
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