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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 15 Feb 22 7.28am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Yes, it was a nice goal from Wilf. Townsend scored similar, and let's not forget the best of the bunch, Ayew dancing past wooden Wet Spam players before chipping the keeper. Now that was a goal!


And adds to the possibility of using Ayew as a striker in the short term. At least it offers something different to Mateta and Benteke.

 

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View babylonjohn's Profile babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 15 Feb 22 7.43am Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

For me right now, it's Gallagher. But in terms of players who are better than Wilf:

Guehi
Gallagher
Olise
Eze (not currently, but we know he can get there)

Guehi is a good defender but hard to compare him to an attacker
Gallaher is a chelsea player and he seems to have gone off the boil of late.
Olise looks like a fantastic talent. But is still learning and can leave Wardy exposed which is why Ayu will often start over him.
Eze is another fantastic talent but hasnt quite regained his initial form after an injury.
Wilf is joint second highest goalscorer currently despite having played fewer games. Even when not at his best he will worry defences and draw extra defenders to him. He can produce the magic to turn a game and is in my humble opininion our best player.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Feb 22 7.59am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider


And adds to the possibility of using Ayew as a striker in the short term. At least it offers something different to Mateta and Benteke.

Ayew is a striker. Let's not forget he was the main man in 2019/20 season:
"At the end of the season, He became the highest goalscorer for Crystal Palace with 9 goals, and won the Crystal Palace Player of the season and Goal of the season awards".

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 15 Feb 22 8.07am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The Mail is reporting this morning that Wilf is not planning to sign a new contract despite Palace’s desire to sign him up to an extension.
Of course it could be just paper talk or his agent on manoeuvres, but with only 18 months remaining it’s likely that there is some forward planning in place.
The article suggests that he is prepared to let his existing contract run down, in which case Palace could be tempted to sell earlier to at least realise some value.
In my view this would not me as much of an issue as it would have been in the past.
Wilf is assured of his legendary status at the club, but he is a declining force and we are no longer so reliant on him.
He is not the same player that destroyed Bournemouth at the end of the season before last when he accelerated beyond opponents leaving several in his wake and destroyed them on the day.
He doesn’t seem to trust his pace to go on the outside of defenders and is predictable in cutting inside where he frequently concedes possession.
Opponents often don’t even double up on him any more because a full back can deal with him in isolation.
This is not a criticism of a great player, but just an observation of him over a number of months.
Although he’s only 29 such a decline is not without precedent.
Walcott was a brilliant young player, but has had a rapid drop off in form as he has got older and lost pace which is partly attributable to injuries.
Wilf is still capable of great moments, but I’m not sure that he’s the first name on the team sheet any more which in itself is a novelty.
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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Feb 22 8.49am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Well it looks like he'll be gone whatever. As he can't do what he used to and has a terrible attitude to boot, the best the club can hope for is a club like Newcastle come in. He's been here too long, and he knows it. Ideas of CL football were just a figment of his imagination, if he were really as good as his agent thinks he is he would be there by now.
Unfortunately for him he can't reinvent his game; a winger usually relies on pace to make up their game, Wilf is losing his. Maybe he'll get a break elsewhere and start to enjoy his game again.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 15 Feb 22 9.02am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Sad to say it may be time to let him go rather than have to hear tales of how unhappy and frustrated he is every 18 months - when a pay rise fixes his discontent.
Presumably he’d be looking for more money to play for another club whose fans won’t be as forgiving.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 15 Feb 22 9.05am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Not really much we can do about it. Power is in his hands, unless (like he has before) Parish throws silly money at the problem.

Personally I'd offer him another year or 2 extension, if he doesn't want it that's fine. Not going to force him to stay

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 15 Feb 22 9.17am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Not really much we can do about it. Power is in his hands, unless (like he has before) Parish throws silly money at the problem.

Personally I'd offer him another year or 2 extension, if he doesn't want it that's fine. Not going to force him to stay

No, it's time to cut loose. He (and Benteke) is holding the club back. Wilf's position is not irreplacable. There are only a few select players who have long service at a single club. Usually they get less game time as the years go by, and they use their experience to positively influence younger players. If anything Wilf is getting more immature as time goes on.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 15 Feb 22 9.57am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

It's all been said many times now.

Used to enjoy his contribution to the game.

Not any more. Only occasional glimmers of the player he used to be.

His value, both as a player, and financially has reduced significantly.

Prefer to get a few bob for him and let other young talent pick up the talisman mantle.

Please Mr Parish, don't be suckered into paying him more money. He's no longer worth it.

 


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View Mathers's Profile Mathers Flag 15 Feb 22 10.03am Send a Private Message to Mathers Add Mathers as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

For me right now, it's Gallagher. But in terms of players who are better than Wilf:

Guehi
Gallagher
Olise
Eze (not currently, but we know he can get there)

Gallagher I agree but he isn’t OUR player so can’t really count him in.

Olise and Eze are exciting talents but neither has consistently performed at premier league level. If Eze didn’t have a horror injury he could be in the debate but we won’t see the best of him until next season in all likelihood.

Guehi is class and if we could get a string of clean sheets I think he could be a bolted for WC squad. Think he’s better than White, Godfrey or Webster who are all being talked about. But can we realistically compare a CB to a striker/winger?

In terms of attackers, I think Wilf is our best players by some distance.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 15 Feb 22 10.13am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Sometimes you just gotta let em go - we have had this conversation so many times - if he wants out then we have 3 choices -

Throw money at it -
Sell him ( if a buyer can be found at reasonable money)
Let his contract run down -

The business side of this has been done to death -

If you love someone set them free, if they come back they are truly yours, if they don't , they never were.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 15 Feb 22 10.30am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

If he leaves he will end his career a very well paid bit part player and bench warmer

 

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