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Quote St Patrick at 26 Aug 2011 8.39pm

Quote Kermit8 at 26 Aug 2011 8.03pm

Heard it all before..


Is not it sad, that you have heard everything before, but
it has never turned you into someone worth listening to?


Gotta disagree there. Sad is not it is not is it not?

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 27 Aug 2011 9.44am

Quote St Patrick at 26 Aug 2011 8.39pm

Quote Kermit8 at 26 Aug 2011 8.03pm

Heard it all before..


Is not it sad, that you have heard everything before, but
it has never turned you into someone worth listening to?


Gotta disagree there. Sad is not it is not is it not?


Well, by your standards, this is a contribution.

 

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Quote St Patrick at 27 Aug 2011 11.43am

Quote Kermit8 at 27 Aug 2011 9.44am

Quote St Patrick at 26 Aug 2011 8.39pm

Quote Kermit8 at 26 Aug 2011 8.03pm

Heard it all before..


Is not it sad, that you have heard everything before, but
it has never turned you into someone worth listening to?


Gotta disagree there. Sad is not it is not is it not?


Well, by your standards, this is a contribution.


Heard it all before..

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 27 Aug 2011 11.50am

Quote St Patrick at 27 Aug 2011 11.43am

Quote Kermit8 at 27 Aug 2011 9.44am

Quote St Patrick at 26 Aug 2011 8.39pm

Quote Kermit8 at 26 Aug 2011 8.03pm

Heard it all before..


Is not it sad, that you have heard everything before, but
it has never turned you into someone worth listening to?


Gotta disagree there. Sad is not it is not is it not?


Well, by your standards, this is a contribution.


Heard it all before..


Six year olds could do better!

 

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helo st patrik my names joe im seven. my dad is kermit ive heard it all before to.


 


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Quote Kermit8 at 27 Aug 2011 12.13pm

helo st patrik my names joe im seven. my dad is kermit ive heard it all before to.



Hello Joe!

I think your dad influenced your decision.

I'm sure you will do better next time!

 

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 26 Aug 2011 10.37pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Aug 2011 1.49pm


Its more derogatory stereotypes, that associate negative traits to a group, in this case blacks, but it could be resorting to the 'all jews are tight with money' etc. Its pretty much a definition of racism.

No, that's subjective....That type of thinking is what leads to today's thought police nonsense.


Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Aug 2011 1.49pm

The same logic could be used to suppose that if I make a mother-in-law joke it means that I dislike or hate mother-in-laws.....Jokes shouldn't be used as proof of anything.

Misogynistic and given its a trend thats long since past. Of course most comedians would make jokes about 'their mother in law', rather than all mother in laws.

Misogynistic? Jokes using stereotypes don't prove a mental state, physical actions do. Would you like every word you utter to be taken as factual evidence of what you believe in? Someone can tell a hundred mother-in-law jokes and actually really like their mother-in-law.

Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Aug 2011 1.49pm

For example, some ethnic comedians make jokes about 'black issues' or being Iranian, are they not stereotyping their own race? Isn't it racist to say that a black person can make jokes about 'black issues' but a white person can't because they are white?

No, see the bit about irony, and of course the excellent Office Sketch about Chris Rock.

Do you mean that when black comedians make jokes about blacks they are being ironic, but if a white comedian does it they are being racist? So if Chris Rock makes a joke about white people he's a racist or being Ironic? I'm not sure what you think here.

Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Aug 2011 1.49pm
Is a black comedian racist if he says white people can't dance or jump? No he isn't.
The whole thing as a basis of proof doesn't stand up when it is examined.

Its called reverse racism. The point to bear in mind is the historical context of racism, which typically has been the idea of a 'white supremacy', as exampled in the philosophy of Imperialism. The experience of racism, historically is such that the experience of white northern europeans isn't really on a par with say black, asian or indians exposed to white northern european cultures.

Are you saying that some racism is justified on an historical context? ..So does this mean that if some German killed my great-grandfather in the First World War, and another German killed my Grandfather in the Second World War that I can be justified in telling jokes about this generation of Germans? As it is somehow my genetic right? The logic doesn't work.
It's my racist reason is more important than your racist reason. No, the concept of equality means that everyone is equal.

So it should be fine to either have a situation where anybody can make a racial joke about any race or no one can make a racial joke.....This would be equality.
I would prefer the former, but watch for hate incitement....I think the current laws are just about right on this.

Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Aug 2011 1.49pm
The term 'racist' is thrown around way too easily, it should be kept for those who encourage hatred.

Or enables prejudice, or relies on it. Racism hasn't always been associated with hatred, as exampled in Imperialism. Its also, the empowerment of a 'superiority' either racially, or culturally.

No, that's too subjective...That suffocates creativity, that is the creation of thought policing.


Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Aug 2011 1.49pm
This said I much prefer an environment where racial jokes aren't used, but mainly because they can lead to unpleasantness and in the weak minded eventually a belief that they are more than just a joke.

So you're saying they empower racist ideas and reactions, but thats fine. I'll draw a line and say they actually have to be funny, or ironic, to avoid actually being racist.

So if you don't find it funny or ironic you deem it racist? That's the tricky subjective line....Personally I feel we should be careful with throwing around these loaded terms and only call people racist when it is fairly obvious or admitted.

 


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For what it's worth imo.... it's the haranguing of groups of people camouflaged as comedy/political rhetoric/banter,etc, that crosses the line between meaningful and/or humourous observation as opposed to someone who's not quite right in the head just using it to vent an -ism.

 


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GOOD INVESTMENT...

The young bride approached her awaiting husband on their wedding night and demanded $10 for their first love-making encounter. In his highly aroused state,
he readily agreed. This scenario was repeated each time they made love for the next 30 years, him thinking it was a cute way for her to buy new clothes, etc.

Arriving home around noon one day, she found her husband in a very drunken state. Over the next few minutes she heard of the ravages of financial ruin caused by corporate down sizing and it's effects on a 50 year old executive.

Calmly, she handed him a bank book showing deposits and interest for 30 years, totaling nearly million dollars.

Pointing across the parking lot she gestured toward the local bank, while handing him stock certificates worth nearly million dollars and informing him that he was the largest stockholder in the bank.

She told him that for 30 years she had charged him each time they had sex, and this was the result of her investments.

By now he was distraught and beating his head against the side of the car.

She asked him why the disappointment at such good news and he replied,

"If I had known what you were doing, I would have given you all of my business!"

 

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...it all before

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 28 Aug 2011 6.42pm

...it all before


Family photo?

 

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Very amoooosing

 


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