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View TheFish's Profile TheFish Flag 17 Aug 16 12.41pm Send a Private Message to TheFish Add TheFish as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

You are way too occupied with what your former managers are doing - especially when things aren't exactly going well out the moment. You would have a shred of credibility if you are able to argue how much better things have gone since you forced him out.

instead your argument is - sack Pardew get relegated.

That is not my argument at all. I can't imagine why you would claim that was my argument. My argument is; "If I were you I'd replace Pardew before it's too late"

Also, there are parts of my clubs that have improved since Pardew's departure. The chasm between the club and the fanbase is being bridged, the backroom staff are competent and ambitious, there has been investment in the community, and on the facilities at the club. Our fortunes on the pitch will improve too and I'm confident they'll surpass our performances under Alan Pardew.

 

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Originally posted by TheFish

That is not my argument at all. I can't imagine why you would claim that was my argument. My argument is; "If I were you I'd replace Pardew before it's too late"

Also, there are parts of my clubs that have improved since Pardew's departure. The chasm between the club and the fanbase is being bridged, the backroom staff are competent and ambitious, there has been investment in the community, and on the facilities at the club. Our fortunes on the pitch will improve too and I'm confident they'll surpass our performances under Alan Pardew.


Given your clubs history of under-performance and lack of self awareness why would we care what you think?


As I say you would have a scintilla of credibility if you were successful after forcing Pardew out but things got even worse. Newcastle have become a by-word for "do the opposite to them". You even make Sunderland look competent at the moment and they, as Dave Kitson has written they really are a shambles of a club.

 

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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 17 Aug 16 1.11pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

I wonder if adrianB has ever been on a train to Newcastle.

 




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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Aug 16 1.27pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Pardew must have shagged a lot of wives and girlfriends up there considering the obvious ire still directed towards him.
I guess it must be Pards fault that Toon are still deluded and average championship material at best. Perhaps I will start a website 'deluded Toon fans out' and write some stupid articles and say they are complete fact - as maybe they are part of the problem by failing to back their team even when they were doing ok.
The one fact completely skirted around is that Newcastle were 8th in the league when Pards left. They then survived by one point with 'one of their own'. Then 'one of their own' basically put them down. Then a Spaniard came in and was give loads of money. He got a couple of results but is failing with a squad of stars in the second tier of football.
I would say there is a problem at the club bigger than once having Pardew as a manager - and everyone should recognise it - before it's too late.
And yes - put this on your Geordie boards. As I have previously stated Pardew will go soon enough if result are bad. That's the business we are in. We really don't need Newcastle fans to worry about us. The fascination with Pards is really quite unbelievable. I reckon most of these guys are Brighton trolls fuelled by a couple of recent results.

 


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View TheFish's Profile TheFish Flag 17 Aug 16 1.27pm Send a Private Message to TheFish Add TheFish as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe
Given your clubs history of under-performance and lack of self awareness why would we care what you think?


As I say you would have a scintilla of credibility if you were successful after forcing Pardew out but things got even worse. Newcastle have become a by-word for "do the opposite to them". You even make Sunderland look competent at the moment and they, as Dave Kitson has written they really are a shambles of a club.

You keep trying to win internet points by insulting me and my club; will you be able to move past that and have an actual conversation if I pretend you've really upset me?

 

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View Sedlescombe's Profile Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 17 Aug 16 1.43pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Originally posted by TheFish


You keep trying to win internet points by insulting me and my club; will you be able to move past that and have an actual conversation if I pretend you've really upset me?


Not interested in "points" I simply struggle to understand

a) what in your team's recent history makes you an expert in giving other teams "advice" over who their manager should be. For instance if you sacked Pardew and were now in the Europa League that would be of interest

b) how someone can be so fixated with an ex-manager that you still need to follow him around. Aren't there more rewarding things to focus on?

c) Why you think we are interested in the views of other teams fans when deciding on who our manager would be.

My view is you are nothing more than a s***-stirrer hoping to foment a bit more hate towards your nemesis and hence there is no "conversation" to be had.

 

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View Part Time James's Profile Part Time James Flag 17 Aug 16 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

I think he has proven he is a sh*t stirrer given that I have asked twice as to what he believes we ought to do with his "warning" about Pardew and he hasn't responded.

I am suspicious that he didn't actually come here looking to assist a club he has a soft spot for given that he hasn't yet clarified how this warning ought to manifest itself as something productive and constructive. The only logical conclusion, until I am proven wrong with a suggestion of a plan of action, is that he is here on the (so far successful) mission to wind us up.

 




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View Southampton_Eagle's Profile Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 17 Aug 16 1.51pm Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by TheFish

You keep trying to win internet points by insulting me and my club; will you be able to move past that and have an actual conversation if I pretend you've really upset me?

Or possibly you could have some sense of self awareness and realise that your input on this board isn't appreciated?

 

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And FYI, coming on here to wind us up isn't something I necessarily find annoying. I actually quite enjoy the response it gets!

 




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View TheFish's Profile TheFish Flag 17 Aug 16 1.59pm Send a Private Message to TheFish Add TheFish as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe
Not interested in "points" I simply struggle to understand

a) what in your team's recent history makes you an expert in giving other teams "advice" over who their manager should be. For instance if you sacked Pardew and were now in the Europa League that would be of interest
If a bloke has been to a bad restaurant, he can advise you not to go there. That he now has the s***s doesn't make his review any less valid.

b) how someone can be so fixated with an ex-manager that you still need to follow him around. Aren't there more rewarding things to focus on? I'm perfectly able to spare 3 minutes every now and then throughout the day to chat about a common threat with such a welcoming crowd.

c) Why you think we are interested in the views of other teams fans when deciding on who our manager would be. because I've suffered Pardew's football and have an insight that those who, by their own admission, blindly support a manger may not.

My view is you are nothing more than a s***-stirrer hoping to foment a bit more hate towards your nemesis and hence there is no "conversation" to be had.


Nemesis... I'm not Holmes and Pardew is no Moriarty.

I'm honestly interested in hearing people's defence of the man, but I've seen none. All I've seen is 1 or 2 Newcastle fans, and a number of Palace fans criticising Alan Pardew's ability and being met with little more than a stream of abuse.

 

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View TheFish's Profile TheFish Flag 17 Aug 16 2.01pm Send a Private Message to TheFish Add TheFish as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

I think he has proven he is a sh*t stirrer given that I have asked twice as to what he believes we ought to do with his "warning" about Pardew and he hasn't responded.

I am suspicious that he didn't actually come here looking to assist a club he has a soft spot for given that he hasn't yet clarified how this warning ought to manifest itself as something productive and constructive. The only logical conclusion, until I am proven wrong with a suggestion of a plan of action, is that he is here on the (so far successful) mission to wind us up.

I have made a suggestion, but I'll reiterate.

Apply pressure on your owner to make a change. This can be done with protests, chants, boycotts* or public appeals for change.


*I don't think you need to go that far just yet.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Aug 16 2.06pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by TheFish

I have made a suggestion, but I'll reiterate.

Apply pressure on your owner to make a change. This can be done with protests, chants, boycotts* or public appeals for change.


*I don't think you need to go that far just yet.

We don't have the most patient ownership and they will sack Pardew if league results continue to be poor. There is no way we are silly enough to start a campaign about it - well I hope not anyway.

I will make some defence of Pardew if you like. Our footballing style is far easier on the eye than it was probably in the whole time since Coppell. Problem seems to have been that we had injuries and went on a run of bad form. We seem to lack confidence but a couple of wins could change that.
You can always come back to the HOL and say I told you so when we lose another couple of league games. You may, or may not, have long to wait.

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