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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 28 Aug 17 7.21am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I am not an advocate of sacking a Manager so early into the season but it might be that it has to happen.
What we don't know is what is going on behind the scenes and whether he is a popular figure in the Club and one that the players get on with?
Sacking him would cost a fortune as well!
On his side are the players he is without right now must hurt, the lack of new blood coming in and therefore a very weak squad -little of that would seem to be his fault?
To think that we still have Mutch, Kelly and Chong Lee makes unhappy reading.
We do however appear to be lost at sea with no direction from anywhere and that includes the Boardroom!
I feel that he should go and that Dougie be appointed full time Manager because despite his massive error of judgement years ago he gets CPFC!

Edited by The Dolphin (28 Aug 2017 7.22am)

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 28 Aug 17 7.29am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Get David Wagner in. Pay what it takes the guy on an upward curve and deserves a chance at a bigger club than Huddersfield.

And why would he want to come to us right now when Huddersfield are everything we are not.
They have a plan, they have players to implement that plan, they have energy and commitment and a Club that is as one.
Right now I am sad to say that my beloved Palace have none of that.

 

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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 28 Aug 17 7.37am Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It's fair. Looks like he's fvcked up extending Pardew and Frank without any kind of business strategy which should be but is forgotten or unaware of:

Where are we now?

Where do we want to be?

How are we going to get there?

BASIC FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES OF MARKETING MANAGEMENT.

Come on Steve, marketing is more than production of advertising. The recent shambles lacks a coherent strategy and any synergy.

Come on marketing man.

You are trying to aliken elite sports management to the principles of marketing? If you're going to start quoting crap from text books at least pick a relevant one

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Aug 17 9.10am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

You are trying to aliken elite sports management to the principles of marketing? If you're going to start quoting crap from text books at least pick a relevant one

Well that shows you haven't a clue because he's decided on a goal/target with no plan or idea of how to get there. See my point? Oh and there's also 'Where have we been'? Pardew, a gradual decline, his sacking, 'winding the clock back....' And now a repeat of it.

Loads of businesses fail because that plan of where they want to be and how they're going to get there gets forgotten or ignored, and parish is from a bl33ding marketing background, although it's actually marketing production more than strategy.

There is no joined up thinking or synergy in the club's strategy right now, call it what you want, and it's showing badly, losing to 2 relegation battlers at home, 3-0 and 2-0.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Aug 2017 9.13am)

 


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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 28 Aug 17 9.37am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Well that shows you haven't a clue because he's decided on a goal/target with no plan or idea of how to get there. See my point? Oh and there's also 'Where have we been'? Pardew, a gradual decline, his sacking, 'winding the clock back....' And now a repeat of it.

Loads of businesses fail because that plan of where they want to be and how they're going to get there gets forgotten or ignored, and parish is from a bl33ding marketing background, although it's actually marketing production more than strategy.

There is no joined up thinking or synergy in the club's strategy right now, call it what you want, and it's showing badly, losing to 2 relegation battlers at home, 3-0 and 2-0.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Aug 2017 9.13am)

I think its arguable that Parish himself had a failure of nerve and went for a manager in FdB who would emphasise possession based football rather than choose a more tradtional (for Palace) strong at the back/counterattacking style manager like Dyche. Nothing wrong with this tradionalmstyle if you bring in better players to implement it better. Meanwhile SP is 'set for talks' with FdB. Does he stick with FdB or sack him now? This summarises the dilemma. Personally I would go for the sack, have Freedman in as care taker, and most crucially, buy Sakho to restore leadership on the field

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 28 Aug 17 9.38am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Well that shows you haven't a clue because he's decided on a goal/target with no plan or idea of how to get there. See my point? Oh and there's also 'Where have we been'? Pardew, a gradual decline, his sacking, 'winding the clock back....' And now a repeat of it.

Loads of businesses fail because that plan of where they want to be and how they're going to get there gets forgotten or ignored, and parish is from a bl33ding marketing background, although it's actually marketing production more than strategy.

There is no joined up thinking or synergy in the club's strategy right now, call it what you want, and it's showing badly, losing to 2 relegation battlers at home, 3-0 and 2-0.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (28 Aug 2017 9.13am)

Your post is all based on supposition, you have no idea of the strategy that is being implemented at the club.
You constantly post that De Boer was second choice behind Pellegrino again your supposition not evidence or fact.

 

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Originally posted by Petereagle

I think its arguable that Parish himself had a failure of nerve and went for a manager in FdB who would emphasise possession based football rather than choose a more tradtional (for Palace) strong at the back/counterattacking style manager like Dyche. Nothing wrong with this tradionalmstyle if you bring in better players to implement it better. Meanwhile SP is 'set for talks' with FdB. Does he stick with FdB or sack him now? This summarises the dilemma. Personally I would go for the sack, have Freedman in as care taker, and most crucially, buy Sakho to restore leadership on the field

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There definitely needs to be a plan of action, rather than a dither and carry on with more small decision to decision with no joined up thinking.

Frank has been unlucky losing Zaha and Cheek, he has adapted from 3-4-3 which is suicide for us to 3-5-whatever, but what really takes him closer to the door is ward at RWB and even PVA at LWB. And puncheon playing but not Cabaye.

This is a monumental f*** up some of us could see coming as soon as we heard '3-4-3' a few months ago. Blinded by a big name and a lot of memory loss.

'Manager with prem experience'
'Winding the clock back'

What a mess, and a few days of the window left to design a coherent strategy.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Aug 17 9.49am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Your post is all based on supposition, you have no idea of the strategy that is being implemented at the club.
You constantly post that De Boer was second choice behind Pellegrino again your supposition not evidence or fact.

Well if Frank was first choice it's either an incompetent decision to hire him or not back him, or establish how he'd implement changes, not change them even more than Pardew.

 


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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 Aug 17 9.52am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There definitely needs to be a plan of action, rather than a dither and carry on with more small decision to decision with no joined up thinking.

Frank has been unlucky losing Zaha and Cheek, he has adapted from 3-4-3 which is suicide for us to 3-5-whatever, but what really takes him closer to the door is ward at RWB and even PVA at LWB. And puncheon playing but not Cabaye.

This is a monumental f*** up some of us could see coming as soon as we heard '3-4-3' a few months ago. Blinded by a big name and a lot of memory loss.

'Manager with prem experience'
'Winding the clock back'

What a mess, and a few days of the window left to design a coherent strategy.


Has he been asked to 'stay loyal' to Puncheon and Ward to keep playing them.

If he really needs to keep Ward happy he should play him in a back four where he knows what he's doing.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Aug 17 10.18am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Slimey Toad


Has he been asked to 'stay loyal' to Puncheon and Ward to keep playing them.

If he really needs to keep Ward happy he should play him in a back four where he knows what he's doing.

I doubt that. More like determined to play his formation regardless and try and find the players to select after deciding on formation.

 


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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 28 Aug 17 10.24am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I doubt that. More like determined to play his formation regardless and try and find the players to select after deciding on formation.

Meanwhile 6 points have been handed to relegation rivals - in August.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Aug 17 10.26am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Meanwhile 6 points have been handed to relegation rivals - in August.

'Results over style'

 


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