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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 04 Mar 19 10.52am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Look up the rules on EEA Family Permits! These are free but other non-EU nationals have to pay quite a substantial amount for visas. Do you know for a fact that the influx is from Asian sub-continent? If so I would be interested to know where you got the figures from or am I not allowed to ask this?

We are not home office officials, thankfully, the figures show a reduction in EU people and an increase in non-EU people.

So there are no benefits of reduced immigration due to brexit.

That's all.


 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 04 Mar 19 11.12am

Originally posted by W12

This whole thread is clearly a microcosm of the state of the nation both in terms of Brexit and beyond in general political discourse.

Despite many pages of discussion I don't really see anyone shifting on their position and it's a great example of the tribalism that's taken over. If anything this discussion is just dividing people further.

At this point we are becoming two completely different nations sharing an island and it does not bode well for my children. They remainers in general run the government (including both main political parties) and all the key institutions in this country so at this point have a huge advantage. But the majority (if only just, although I think it's more than just the people that voted for Brexit) have had enough of being ignored especially as that's now turning into censorship and state threats.

The clear danger (and the elephant in the room) is that this inevitably leads to violence. I sincerely hope not but at that point I know who I would back in a fight.

Is that not a reason in itself to not leave?

We talk about the will of the people when the country is completely at odds and divided on the subject

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Mar 19 11.13am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

We are not home office officials, thankfully, the figures show a reduction in EU people and an increase in non-EU people.

So there are no benefits of reduced immigration due to brexit.

That's all.


Brexit hasn't happened yet so the government's new immigration policy has not yet kicked in.

In principle I have no objections to what they are proposing which is more about job skills than where you are from.

Now if that policy doesn't work then this or a future government is free to amend it, something they cannot do with free movement within the EU.

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Is that not a reason in itself to not leave?

We talk about the will of the people when the country is completely at odds and divided on the subject

No whole-hearted consent then, is there, to leave, as was required in the 1975 vote,to stay in the common market.

So a country torn down the middle.

And as we leave it looks more like 'in name only', not that anybody has a clue what is going to happen in 25 days time.......


 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Mar 19 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

We are not home office officials, thankfully, the figures show a reduction in EU people and an increase in non-EU people.

So there are no benefits of reduced immigration due to brexit.

That's all.


I would like to know where you get your figures from (I am genuinely interested). Just to make it clear non-EU isn't just people from the Asian sub-continent

 

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Originally posted by Spiderman

I would like to know where you get your figures from (I am genuinely interested). Just to make it clear non-EU isn't just people from the Asian sub-continent

Migration Statistics Quarterly Report: February 2019

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Mar 19 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

We are not home office officials, thankfully, the figures show a reduction in EU people and an increase in non-EU people.

So there are no benefits of reduced immigration due to brexit.

That's all.



I've said this to you once before, this is short term and short term thinking by you.

Being a lefty you don't want a reduction anyway.

Obviously we do.

So by taking any opportunity.....I repeat any opportunity offered to us to pushback against the policies of immigration by governments over decades we take it.

Once the reduction in the EU migrants has been achieved we can focus upon the far more important reduction that must be achieved on non EU migrants. This isn't once and done.

Governments use population increase as an easy method of GDP growth.....it's a ponzi scheme and I like many will take any means offered to us to reverse harmful short term policies.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Mar 2019 1.36pm)

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

Migration Statistics Quarterly Report: February 2019

Thank you. However you didn't mention the following statement on that report:

Long-term international migration data from the ONS are largely based on a survey. It is not possible to survey all people coming to and leaving the UK, so these statistics are estimates based on a sample, not precise figures. It is best to use all available data sources and review longer time series to assess migration trends.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 05 Mar 19 12.53pm

Surprise surprise

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"They need us more than we need them"

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Surprise surprise

[Link]

"They need us more than we need them"

Says MAY and MIGHT not Will. Lets wait and see

 

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W12 05 Mar 19 4.10pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

We are not home office officials, thankfully, the figures show a reduction in EU people and an increase in non-EU people.

So there are no benefits of reduced immigration due to brexit.

That's all.


Of course there are. What do you think the EU have planned for us long term. They need wage slaves. And what happens during the next EU migration crisis? Also, the UK government can now be seen to have full control of our borders and can be held accountable for migration statistics.

Regaining full sovereignty is just the first step in solving these fundamental problems.

 

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