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 Spiderman  Horsham 06 Sep 19 2.54pm |
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Interesting snippet from an article in the Guardian from 2014. I would like to know what reforms have taken place that made Spreadsheet Phil change his tune Philip Hammond, last week appointed as foreign secretary, has confirmed that he would vote for Britain to leave the European Union unless there was significant reform in Brussels. In an interview on the BBC's Andrew Marr show on Sunday, Hammond said that current arrangements were "simply not acceptable" and that he stood by the answer he gave in an interview a year ago when he said, if he had to choose now, he would vote for withdrawal from the EU.
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| Midlands Eagle 06 Sep 19 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Shadow Foreign Secretary who just rolls her eyes when someone disagrees with her, needs to grow up and learn a lot about being a diplomat. She who refers to Labour voters as "white van man"
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cryrst  The garden of England 06 Sep 19 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
This is a fine effort, to be applauded. The rest of the post is b*llocks, mind Coming from an antifa loving left wing no mark government bean counter that's quite funny.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Sep 19 3.05pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Aren't these the same people who think Brexit will be a financial disaster. Happy to be proved wrong Wissie Maybe not the same but similar and if you probe deep you will see that for many it was always a difficult judgement call, because of the uncertainties involved. Uncertainties that, with hindsight, seem to have proven the ultimate political judgement to have been wise. Deciding that we ought to have joined the Euro can still be viewed as an honourable position to have taken, given what we knew at the time. This is not the same as with a no deal Brexit, whatever your opinion might be on a Brexit at all. No-one expects a no deal exit to be beneficial. They might vary on how bad and how long the pain will be but pain is expected. Pain that can, and ought, be avoided.
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| DANGERCLOSE london 06 Sep 19 3.05pm |
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| Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 06 Sep 19 3.09pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
This is a fine effort, to be applauded. The rest of the post is b*llocks, mind Probably the reason why I can make plenty of money in the City yet can't quite understand how the majority of Politicians have no idea how to negotiate a deal.
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| Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 06 Sep 19 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
[Tweet Link]I watched that last night but had to turn it off due to the extreme amount of bollox coming out of Emily Thornberry's mouth. Bruce also wound me up by not intervening. You my gather I can't stand Emily Thornberry but last night she clearly highlighted why she really shouldn't be in a position of responsibility - and return to her mansion in Islington.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Sep 19 3.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe not the same but similar and if you probe deep you will see that for many it was always a difficult judgement call, because of the uncertainties involved. Uncertainties that, with hindsight, seem to have proven the ultimate political judgement to have been wise. Deciding that we ought to have joined the Euro can still be viewed as an honourable position to have taken, given what we knew at the time. This is not the same as with a no deal Brexit, whatever your opinion might be on a Brexit at all. No-one expects a no deal exit to be beneficial. They might vary on how bad and how long the pain will be but pain is expected. Pain that can, and ought, be avoided. Opposition parties,had THREE attempts to prevent 'No Deal' but they never backed the May deal. One is left with the impression that opposition parties would have rejected ANY deal that May had agreed for party political purposes amidst their disengenuous claims of "Respecting the result of the referendum".
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe not the same but similar and if you probe deep you will see that for many it was always a difficult judgement call, because of the uncertainties involved. Uncertainties that, with hindsight, seem to have proven the ultimate political judgement to have been wise. Deciding that we ought to have joined the Euro can still be viewed as an honourable position to have taken, given what we knew at the time. This is not the same as with a no deal Brexit, whatever your opinion might be on a Brexit at all. No-one expects a no deal exit to be beneficial. They might vary on how bad and how long the pain will be but pain is expected. Pain that can, and ought, be avoided. Nonsense
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 3.24pm |
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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle
I watched that last night but had to turn it off due to the extreme amount of bollox coming out of Emily Thornberry's mouth. Bruce also wound me up by not intervening. You my gather I can't stand Emily Thornberry but last night she clearly highlighted why she really shouldn't be in a position of responsibility - and return to her mansion in Islington. Agreed seemed to only intervene when it was the Brexit supporters having their say. How Blackford and Thornberry were allowed so much waffle time was a disgrace. A point I believe Ian Dale tried to make
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| Spiderman Horsham 06 Sep 19 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Opposition parties,had THREE attempts to prevent 'No Deal' but they never backed the May deal. One is left with the impression that opposition parties would have rejected ANY deal that May had agreed for party political purposes amidst their disengenuous claims of "Respecting the result of the referendum".
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Sep 19 3.29pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Opposition parties,had THREE attempts to prevent 'No Deal' but they never backed the May deal. One is left with the impression that opposition parties would have rejected ANY deal that May had agreed for party political purposes amidst their disengenuous claims of "Repecting the result of the referendum".
Many MPs who wanted themselves to remain voted for May's deal, whilst many leavers did not. The problem wasn't the leaving, it was the perceived problems associated with the "backstop" which would only get worse without any kind of deal. The problem with playing a game of bluff in high stakes poker is that sometimes you are caught holding a pair of twos on the table and everything gets lost. Our government ought not be gambling with the future of our children and grandchildren for the sake of proving a point. This is not responsible negotiation at all.
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