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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 12 Oct 19 5.43am Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

A stitch up vote with 3 options.
It should be in or out.
Not in,out with a deal or out with no deal.
You dont even live here.
Carry on with your antifa marches!

How perceptive of you.

In or out is what got you in this mess in the first place, dummy.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 12 Oct 19 5.46am Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You will be posting to yourself soon Wisbech.

Your Remain propaganda is beyond soporific.

You f*cking love it, Hrolf.

You will keep coming back to the well like Dick Dastardly coming back to see what that pesky pigeon is up to.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 12 Oct 19 7.33am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle



We know a great deal more about what staying in the EU means
because we have decades of real experience. You don't like it but at least you know it.

Coming out is like walking into a misty forest hoping there are green fields and sunshine on the other side. It would be a triumph of hope over experience.

Is that what the people who voted in the 70's said? This EU is nothing like what the majority of people wanted to join and it's what the majority now want to leave. You remoaners are harming our country now and I won't ever forget this!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 12 Oct 19 8.45am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We know a great deal more about what staying in the EU means because we have decades of real experience. You don't like it but at least you know it.

Coming out is like walking into a misty forest hoping there are green fields and sunshine on the other side. It would be a triumph of hope over experience.

Lucky you wernt in charge in June 1944.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 12 Oct 19 8.47am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

How perceptive of you.

In or out is what got you in this mess in the first place, dummy.

Yup and I'm not the dummy whos addicted to wedding cake

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 12 Oct 19 9.54am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

These guys that will sign on to anything just to 'get it done' will be at the front of the queue whining when it all goes wrong.

And it will, because the UK is incompetent.

Name any successful project in the last 10 years?

The Olympic Games 2012 I concur.

There will be a collective sigh of relief in Europe when they are finally rid of the UK.

Everything that you hated about the ex-wife the EU is suffering, the reality of divorce is that you are still lumbered with them!

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 12 Oct 19 11.00am Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

These guys that will sign on to anything just to 'get it done' will be at the front of the queue whining when it all goes wrong.
And it will, because the UK is incompetent.

Name any successful project in the last 10 years?

The Olympic Games 2012 I concur.

There will be a collective sigh of relief in Europe when they are finally rid of the UK.

Everything that you hated about the ex-wife the EU is suffering, the reality of divorce is that you are still lumbered with them!

The only guys moaning along with you once we leave will be the remoaners. They have tried everything to stop the will of the people leaving the awful club called the EU.
I think you need to see someone about changing your medication as it does things to your head !!

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Oct 19 11.19am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

You f*cking love it, Hrolf.

You will keep coming back to the well like Dick Dastardly coming back to see what that pesky pigeon is up to.

Medal, medal, medal...

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Oct 19 11.19am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Is that what the people who voted in the 70's said? This EU is nothing like what the majority of people wanted to join and it's what the majority now want to leave. You remoaners are harming our country now and I won't ever forget this!

We have all had 40+ years of experience and of seeing the European project evolve from the EEC into the EU. Some like it, some don't.

By 2016 you are quite right. The EU was nothing like the EEC we originally entered. It was much more complex and all our regulatory systems and standards had been moulded to be part of it. A simple binary question obtained a small majority in favour of leaving this complex organisation but what has subsequently emerged is that the question could not be answered in that way. Complicated questions cannot be answered in simple ways.

In 2016 no-one really understood that. Most, but obviously not everyone, does now. The majority back in 2016 said they wanted to leave, but only by a tiny margin. Now is 2019 and not 2016 and what they now want is unknown until it is tested. All the indications are that enough have changed their minds to reverse the result of 2016. Time will tell.


 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Oct 19 11.25am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Lucky you wernt in charge in June 1944.

I wasn't anywhere in June 1944!

My father was though, defending our country, with my mother and brother unaware of his whereabouts or safety. There is a huge difference though between serving your country in war time and jumping off cliffs without a parachute hoping there is a mattress at the bottom

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Oct 19 11.29am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Holding another referendum has never been my preference but I heard Hammond make a persuasive argument in favour a day or two ago. This was that as a government in our first past the post system is rarely elected by more than 35% of the electorate asking Parliament to be able to decide and carry opinion with them in sufficient strength for the electorate to be comfortable with it, is pretty nigh impossible. Thus the divisions would continue. Holding a 3 option referendum would enable a majority to all have a stake in whatever has been negotiated.

For god sake Wisbech. First you say Parliament should decide, then you say there is a persuasive argument for a second referendum. Make up your mind.
We already had a referendum Wisbech and we voted to leave. Any second referendum cannot have a leave option, you sneaky old Remainer you.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Oct 19 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

For god sake Wisbech. First you say Parliament should decide, then you say there is a persuasive argument for a second referendum. Make up your mind.
We already had a referendum Wisbech and we voted to leave. Any second referendum cannot have a leave option, you sneaky old Remainer you.

I don't normally immerse myself in Brexit threads on HOL as I have enough discussion about it and other political matters outside this cherished site, often much to the chagrin of my dear wife.

However in response to the suggestion that any second referendum (God forbid) should NOT have any LEAVE option I thought I would reveal a discussion I had the other night.The overwhelming opinion amongst the multitudes was that in order to respect the referendum when 17.4 million voted to leave, any subsequent referendum should only offer 2 choices, Leave with a deal agreed or leave without a deal.This of course would mean Remainers would not vote but at least it would respect the result of the 2016 referendum!

Anyhow, enough of my interjections on this thread.I shall concentrate on the football threads and leave this discussion to the experts! I really have no desire to rear-up like a shocked dray horse like I do outside HOL when certain political matters are discussed as it cannot be any good for my blood pressure so I shall bow out gracefully!

Edited by Willo (12 Oct 2019 12.30pm)

 

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