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Stirlingsays 14 Jun 20 10.13am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It's a free country. You can choose to live wherever you like. I used to live in Croydon, because that's where I was born. I even chose to live in Wisbech once but as soon as I retired couldn't get away from the boring Fens and it's people quickly enough. Too many closet fascists there for my liking. So come to Cornwall. The housing is relatively cheap and the countryside gorgeous. I had a long walk along the cliffs yesterday, with my wife and dog, between Chaple Porth and St Agnes. The sun was out, the views wonderful. The surfers were riding big waves. Lovely. Much better than getting wound up in London Parks. Don't talk to us about it. Get in contact with BLM about it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jun 20 10.13am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's a free country. You can choose to live wherever you like.

I used to live in Croydon, because that's where I was born.

I even chose to live in Wisbech once but as soon as I retired couldn't get away from the boring Fens and it's people quickly enough. Too many closet fascists there for my liking.

So come to Cornwall. The housing is relatively cheap and the countryside gorgeous. I had a long walk along the cliffs yesterday, with my wife and dog, between Chaple Porth and St Agnes. The sun was out, the views wonderful. The surfers were riding big waves. Lovely. Much better than getting wound up in London Parks.

Don't talk to us about it.

Get in contact with BLM about it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Jun 20 10.18am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I told you I didn't read every page and I gave you their mission statement. I also told you I had little sympathy for any organisation which, in my view, is likely to make things worse and not better by perpetuating the myth of "blackness" and "whiteness" being the issue. I prefer to concentrate on trying to eradicate attitudes, from wherever, that sustain that myth. The real issue is the deeply embedded racism. With what's happening, and the black white division now I'm becoming increasingly colour xenophobic if that's a thing. I know its foreigners in the dictionary but ffs I wouldn't think bad of a person or be horrible to them unless they are horrible to me. I dont give a s*** about their colour, it's their attitude towards me that counts. There are nasty people of all colours.
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The garden of England 14 Jun 20 10.18am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I told you I didn't read every page and I gave you their mission statement.

I also told you I had little sympathy for any organisation which, in my view, is likely to make things worse and not better by perpetuating the myth of "blackness" and "whiteness" being the issue. I prefer to concentrate on trying to eradicate attitudes, from wherever, that sustain that myth.

The real issue is the deeply embedded racism.

With what's happening, and the black white division now I'm becoming increasingly colour xenophobic if that's a thing. I know its foreigners in the dictionary but ffs I wouldn't think bad of a person or be horrible to them unless they are horrible to me. I dont give a s*** about their colour, it's their attitude towards me that counts.
There are nasty people of all colours.

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cryrst The garden of England 14 Jun 20 10.21am
The silent majority really need to come to the table. Black white man woman LGBT right left middle. This needs to be dealt with without finger pointing. Media also need to drive this but I fear self preservation and politics wont let this happen.
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The garden of England 14 Jun 20 10.21am

The silent majority really need to come to the table. Black white man woman LGBT right left middle.
This needs to be dealt with without finger pointing. Media also need to drive this but I fear self preservation and politics wont let this happen.

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Stirlingsays 14 Jun 20 10.22am
Originally posted by cryrst The silent majority really need to come to the table. Black white man woman LGBT right left middle. This needs to be dealt with without finger pointing. Media also need to drive this but I fear self preservation and politics wont let this happen. The only change will be an increase in the amount of anti white crap we need to deal with. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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14 Jun 20 10.22am

Originally posted by cryrst

The only change will be an increase in the amount of anti white crap we need to deal with.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 14 Jun 20 10.24am
Its interesting reading the posts back and forth about where you live... One of the things that came out of the inquiry into the Brixton riots in the 80s was a criticism that police officers policing Brixton all live in the counties and not in London.. I dont agree with that. If you want a better life and work hard for it and want to live outside London then good luck to you... We all surely as humans want to live in the best place possible to raise our kids etc.. I was born in Mitcham.. Im proud of it but didn't want to bring my kids up there.. I worked hard and saved and moved to Banstead in Surrey.. I shouldn't be made to feel guilty for that. I might live in middle class suburbia but I'm still a working class lad as well. Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!
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Its interesting reading the posts back and forth about where you live... One of the things that came out of the inquiry into the Brixton riots in the 80s was a criticism that police officers policing Brixton all live in the counties and not in London..

I dont agree with that. If you want a better life and work hard for it and want to live outside London then good luck to you... We all surely as humans want to live in the best place possible to raise our kids etc..

I was born in Mitcham.. Im proud of it but didn't want to bring my kids up there.. I worked hard and saved and moved to Banstead in Surrey.. I shouldn't be made to feel guilty for that.

I might live in middle class suburbia but I'm still a working class lad as well.

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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Spiderman Horsham 14 Jun 20 10.34am
Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot Its interesting reading the posts back and forth about where you live... One of the things that came out of the inquiry into the Brixton riots in the 80s was a criticism that police officers policing Brixton all live in the counties and not in London.. I dont agree with that. If you want a better life and work hard for it and want to live outside London then good luck to you... We all surely as humans want to live in the best place possible to raise our kids etc.. I was born in Mitcham.. Im proud of it but didn't want to bring my kids up there.. I worked hard and saved and moved to Banstead in Surrey.. I shouldn't be made to feel guilty for that. I might live in middle class suburbia but I'm still a working class lad as well. Agreed. Born and bred in Thornton Heath, loved growing up there, but by the time we were ready to start a family I did not want my children growing up there, not a snobby/racist thing just considering my kids future. Was working at Gatwick so moved to Horsham, stretched us financially but very good schools, luckily we didn’t want a nightlife. However for WE to say everyone could choose to live in Cornwall if they wanted is ridiculous. My daughter works in the space industry having obtained a masters. In her area of expertise there is only probably 3 locations in the U.K. she could work, the nearest to Cornwall is Guildford, could she live in Cornwall? Of course but wouldn’t be able to follow her chosen career Edited by Spiderman (14 Jun 2020 10.36am)
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Horsham 14 Jun 20 10.34am

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

I was born in Mitcham.. Im proud of it but didn't want to bring my kids up there.. I worked hard and saved and moved to Banstead in Surrey.. I shouldn't be made to feel guilty for that.

I might live in middle class suburbia but I'm still a working class lad as well.

Agreed. Born and bred in Thornton Heath, loved growing up there, but by the time we were ready to start a family I did not want my children growing up there, not a snobby/racist thing just considering my kids future. Was working at Gatwick so moved to Horsham, stretched us financially but very good schools, luckily we didn’t want a nightlife.
However for WE to say everyone could choose to live in Cornwall if they wanted is ridiculous. My daughter works in the space industry having obtained a masters. In her area of expertise there is only probably 3 locations in the U.K. she could work, the nearest to Cornwall is Guildford, could she live in Cornwall? Of course but wouldn’t be able to follow her chosen career

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georgenorman 14 Jun 20 10.38am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I have already answered that. Well, no you haven't. This originated in you answering Matov's post where he said: "BLM are horrendous. Their stated aims are simply beyond comprehension. Destroy the traditional family structure, abolish the Police and dismantle capitalism. All stated in plain sight. No nuance, no attempt to hide behind platitudes." You answered with: "I took a look, for the first time ever, at the "Black Lives Matter" website this evening. Thanks for giving me a reason to do that. Whilst I didn't read every page I saw nothing at all which suggests that their "stated aims" resemble your claim in the slightest." It was then pointed out to you that indeed BLM did clearly state what you maintain that they did not in the slightest. ""We’re guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy and the state structures", You can at least admit that you were wrong in saying that BLM do not have the agenda that Matov highlighted. You should also have the guts to comment on their agenda and say which parts of it you support and which parts you oppose (if any). Edited by georgenorman (14 Jun 2020 10.38am)
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14 Jun 20 10.38am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have already answered that.

Well, no you haven't.

This originated in you answering Matov's post where he said: "BLM are horrendous. Their stated aims are simply beyond comprehension. Destroy the traditional family structure, abolish the Police and dismantle capitalism. All stated in plain sight. No nuance, no attempt to hide behind platitudes."

You answered with: "I took a look, for the first time ever, at the "Black Lives Matter" website this evening. Thanks for giving me a reason to do that. Whilst I didn't read every page I saw nothing at all which suggests that their "stated aims" resemble your claim in the slightest."

It was then pointed out to you that indeed BLM did clearly state what you maintain that they did not in the slightest. ""We’re guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white-supremacy, patriarchy and the state structures",

You can at least admit that you were wrong in saying that BLM do not have the agenda that Matov highlighted. You should also have the guts to comment on their agenda and say which parts of it you support and which parts you oppose (if any).

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Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jun 20 10.44am
Originally posted by Spiderman Agreed. Born and bred in Thornton Heath, loved growing up there, but by the time we were ready to start a family I did not want my children growing up there, not a snobby/racist thing just considering my kids future. Was working at Gatwick so moved to Horsham, stretched us financially but very good schools, luckily we didn’t want a nightlife. However for WE to say everyone could choose to live in Cornwall if they wanted is ridiculous. My daughter works in the space industry having obtained a masters. In her area of expertise there is only probably 3 locations in the U.K. she could work, the nearest to Cornwall is Guildford, could she live in Cornwall? Of course but wouldn’t be able to follow her chosen career Edited by Spiderman (14 Jun 2020 10.36am) We re-located from the Croydon area to leafy Surrey as we didn't want our daughter to be brought up in the area.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jun 20 10.44am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Agreed. Born and bred in Thornton Heath, loved growing up there, but by the time we were ready to start a family I did not want my children growing up there, not a snobby/racist thing just considering my kids future. Was working at Gatwick so moved to Horsham, stretched us financially but very good schools, luckily we didn’t want a nightlife.
However for WE to say everyone could choose to live in Cornwall if they wanted is ridiculous. My daughter works in the space industry having obtained a masters. In her area of expertise there is only probably 3 locations in the U.K. she could work, the nearest to Cornwall is Guildford, could she live in Cornwall? Of course but wouldn’t be able to follow her chosen career

Edited by Spiderman (14 Jun 2020 10.36am)

We re-located from the Croydon area to leafy Surrey as we didn't want our daughter to be brought up in the area.

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georgenorman 14 Jun 20 10.46am
People vote with their feet (if they can afford it). You know, similar to the way people tried to leave communist countries before walls and machine-gun posts stopped them. Edited by georgenorman (14 Jun 2020 10.47am)
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14 Jun 20 10.46am

People vote with their feet (if they can afford it). You know, similar to the way people tried to leave communist countries before walls and machine-gun posts stopped them.

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 20 10.55am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not according to the Cornish. They believe they are a race apart, with connections to other celts. Mind you there was a time when shipwrecked sailors, often with dark skins, influenced the gene pool, which can still be seen today. Don't let that stop you believing they are all "white" though, just because that is the option available on a census form! There is no evidence for that whatsoever. A lot of my genes are Cornish and there ain't no dark anything in them. Any 'exotic' genes that might exist were likely through traders, not shipwrecks.
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14 Jun 20 10.55am

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not according to the Cornish. They believe they are a race apart, with connections to other celts. Mind you there was a time when shipwrecked sailors, often with dark skins, influenced the gene pool, which can still be seen today. Don't let that stop you believing they are all "white" though, just because that is the option available on a census form!

There is no evidence for that whatsoever.

A lot of my genes are Cornish and there ain't no dark anything in them.
Any 'exotic' genes that might exist were likely through traders, not shipwrecks.

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Stirlingsays 14 Jun 20 11.05am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger There is no evidence for that whatsoever. A lot of my genes are Cornish and there ain't no dark anything in them. Any 'exotic' genes that might exist were likely through traders, not shipwrecks. Do you like the pasties then? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

14 Jun 20 11.05am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There is no evidence for that whatsoever.

A lot of my genes are Cornish and there ain't no dark anything in them.
Any 'exotic' genes that might exist were likely through traders, not shipwrecks.

Do you like the pasties then?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 20 11.09am
Originally posted by Mapletree Your posting is all squiffy. You OK? Yes I think BLM, which isn’t an organisation so in reality those people who follow the BLM philosophy, do care passionately about that. There may be a correlation between opportunities available to people, housing class and propensity towards criminality Not on my screen. Are you OK? I disagree. BLM, Antifa and the like thrive on racism. They only get excited when a Black person is killed by someone White, and if it is a copper then it is a real plus for them. They are radical opportunists with destruction on their minds. They want power, not equality. They want to attack the White establishment not improve Black lives. In any organisation like that, history shows that any moderate voices are replaced by extremists when it comes to the crunch. My main concern is how this is being used and indeed engineered by those in the shadows. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (14 Jun 2020 11.14am)
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14 Jun 20 11.09am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Your posting is all squiffy. You OK?

Yes I think BLM, which isn’t an organisation so in reality those people who follow the BLM philosophy, do care passionately about that.

There may be a correlation between opportunities available to people, housing class and propensity towards criminality

Not on my screen. Are you OK?

I disagree. BLM, Antifa and the like thrive on racism. They only get excited when a Black person is killed by someone White, and if it is a copper then it is a real plus for them.

They are radical opportunists with destruction on their minds. They want power, not equality.
They want to attack the White establishment not improve Black lives.
In any organisation like that, history shows that any moderate voices are replaced by extremists when it comes to the crunch.

My main concern is how this is being used and indeed engineered by those in the shadows.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (14 Jun 2020 11.14am)

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