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 Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Apr 23 10.08am |
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Originally posted by The groover
Looking at the games left, Palace (7), Bournemouth (six) and Leicester(5) will have the biggest shout on who goes down. The numbers in brackets are number of relegation dog fights they each have. A draw in those for teams who already have points on the board is a good result. i.e. Us! But the other two sides need wins in those games to catch up. Teams with games against the top sides are also at a disadvantage. Leeds west ham and southampton have 4 each. That may not sound a lot but with 9 games left that's nearly half their games!!! West Ham also have 4 relegation dog fights. They will need to get their points from those games. Bournemouth, us, leeds and leicester, of those only leeds is at home. I can see west ham going down or surviving by the skin of their teeth!!! I currently have southampton, forest, bournemouth for the drop. But its tight between 5 for that last spot. Edited by The groover (06 Apr 2023 9.59am) Edited by The groover (06 Apr 2023 9.59am) WHU were playing a somewhat superior Newcastle team last night however they looked awful. Uncoordinated, uninspired, no real attacking direction and just generally lost. Seems to be something very wrong there from an outsider's perspective and unless something changes I can see them going down and deservedly. As much as I may resent expressing it I was envious of the job Moyes was doing there and their seeming progression. That seems to have fallen apart quite quickly and disastrously for whatever reason.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Apr 23 10.34am |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
WHU were playing a somewhat superior Newcastle team last night however they looked awful. Uncoordinated, uninspired, no real attacking direction and just generally lost. Seems to be something very wrong there from an outsider's perspective and unless something changes I can see them going down and deservedly. As much as I may resent expressing it I was envious of the job Moyes was doing there and their seeming progression. That seems to have fallen apart quite quickly and disastrously for whatever reason.
In recent seasons, some of the strikers they acquired have not delivered in terms of goals.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Apr 23 10.37am |
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Originally posted by Willo
In recent seasons, some of the strikers they acquired have not delivered in terms of goals. Yep they have often resorted to playing Tooting's finest Antonio up front if I recall correctly. They can't do that much longer. For me an attack depends on far more than just someone charged with putting it in the back of the net however. As we saw under PV no striker is gonna get a goal when you scarcely venture into the opposition's final third let alone create anything remotely constituting a 'goal scoring opportunity'.
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cannongilbert  06 Apr 23 10.47am |
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We can wait for the Leeds match in order to draw any serious conclusions.The fact that we had one shot on target in the last three matches in which Vieira was in charge and suddenly thirty shots in one half does say something.Individually we have decent players,what was totally missing during the latter period of the Vieira era was self confidence.Lets hope we are on the right way.COYP
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| YT Oxford 06 Apr 23 11.00am |
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Originally posted by Wilbraham413
The standings are so tight that if any team wins 2 matches in a row, they would immediately be almost safe from relegation. So it's going to be a crap shoot to some degree the rest of the way. We have the advantage of being 3 points ahead, plus the advantage of playing weaker teams the rest of the way. But it's possible that won't translate into points, especially with Wilf out for a month. There's always going to be a surprise team that catches fire and wins 3-4 matches to stay up easily. And there will always be one team that fails to win much of anything rest of the way. I'd love to see So'ton, West Ham, and Everton go down, but realistically, I doubt WHU or Everton will drop. And So'ton always seems to pull a Houdini and manage to escape. If we had Wilf healthy, I would feel really good about our chances. Without him, I can't feel that great. I think if we get draws against our rivals without him in April, that is a good result. If we manage to nick another win, that would be so huge. I'm not sure how you work that out. If 2 wins is all that's needed to be almost safe from relegation, then surely any 2 wins would do; it wouldn't have to be 2 in a row. In any case, 2 wins by Leicester (for example) puts them on 31 points - nowhere near "almost safe".
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| Davepalace707 Northumberland 06 Apr 23 2.41pm |
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9 teams below us haven’t averaged a point a game so far. Feels like it’s reasonable to assume that at least 3 of them won’t get more than a point a game for their remaining fixtures. That would mean 36 points would be the most for 18th place, we would need 36 or 37 depending on goal difference. 6 or 7 points from 9 games.
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| YT Oxford 06 Apr 23 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by Davepalace707
9 teams below us haven’t averaged a point a game so far. Feels like it’s reasonable to assume that at least 3 of them won’t get more than a point a game for their remaining fixtures. That would mean 36 points would be the most for 18th place, we would need 36 or 37 depending on goal difference. 6 or 7 points from 9 games. We are 12th so there's only 8 teams below us. One of the 8 (Leeds) has averaged 1 point per game.
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 06 Apr 23 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by YT
We are 12th so there's only 8 teams below us. One of the 8 (Leeds) has averaged 1 point per game. A team earning a point a game or less is likely to get relegated. 42 points usually guarantees safety. Nearly all of our remaining games are 6 pointers and potentially, we could do a lot of damage to those teams ... we hope!!!
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The groover  Danbury 06 Apr 23 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
A team earning a point a game or less is likely to get relegated. 42 points usually guarantees safety. Nearly all of our remaining games are 6 pointers and potentially, we could do a lot of damage to those teams ... we hope!!! Not sure where you are getting your information but no team has been relegated on 38 points in the last 10 seasons.
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| Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 06 Apr 23 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by The groover
Not sure where you are getting your information but no team has been relegated on 38 points in the last 10 seasons. Rough and ready, it's not scientific but several teams have been relegated from the PL on 40 points. I'll be happier when we reach 42.
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| The groover Danbury 06 Apr 23 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
Rough and ready, it's not scientific but several teams have been relegated from the PL on 40 points. I'll be happier when we reach 42. Not since there were 22 teams in the PL. Two in 2010/11 but that ws an odd season as the winners only had 80 points. The Arse have 72 with 9 games to play.
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| Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 06 Apr 23 6.17pm |
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I think you may be wrong. Several teams have been relegated on 40 points since the 22 became 20. West Ham was actually relegated on 42 in the early 2000s ... blooming shame!
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