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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 22 Oct 23 7.46pm
Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle Mate our first XI when/if all fit will be; Johnstone Ferguson - but will we ever see him fit..?? If not I’d go Richards. Andersen Guehi Mitchell Decoure Lerma Eze Franca Olise Edouard Get this XI on the pitch and we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are and what is realistically achievable this season. To me on paper looks awesome - but time will tell..!! COYP I agree with this, except, RB. Ferguson, if only/maybe. Richards is not a RB. I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 22 Oct 23 7.46pm

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Mate our first XI when/if all fit will be;

Johnstone
Ferguson - but will we ever see him fit..?? If not I’d go Richards.
Andersen
Guehi
Mitchell
Decoure
Lerma
Eze
Franca
Olise
Edouard

Get this XI on the pitch and we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are and what is realistically achievable this season.

To me on paper looks awesome - but time will tell..!!

COYP

I agree with this, except, RB. Ferguson, if only/maybe. Richards is not a RB.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Phil’s Barber Crowborough 22 Oct 23 10.28pm
Originally posted by Pinkfluff1981 What did everyone think of franca today ? Promising.
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Crowborough 22 Oct 23 10.28pm

Originally posted by Pinkfluff1981

What did everyone think of franca today ?

Promising.

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southnorwoodhill 23 Oct 23 5.15am
Originally posted by Elwissthebest I'm always impressed by southnorwoodhill's posts. Even if we had money, I'm not sure we'd spend it. There's much to be said for good housekeeping, but the Premiership is littered with good players we might have signed but didn't. Serial underachievers for many years, Newcastle has now joined the ranks of those teams who can tonk you 4-0 or worse. Never has the Premiership been less of a level playing field. Our manifest destiny is to finish the season as far up the bottom half as we can. Just when it seems that with 'two or three more signings' etc., etc., we'll find that we are trying to hang on to those players like Andersen, Guehi, Olise, Eze who will inevitably be poached. So then we need seven players again! After the Spurs game, which could easily be another 4-0, twelve points from ten games will be about right, given who we've played. Another seven wins should keep us up because in achieving that, we'll have drawn five more games along the way, =38 points. This time next season we'll be discussing whether we have enough to beat Leicester and Leeds. Thanks! When I have my sensible cap on I try to reason objectively. With the players you mention, it seems to me that it has taken a couple of seasons for them to realise their potential, and accordingly attract attention. Therefore if Parish wishes to build the stand and remain in the PL, selling our best players may help achieve the first, but probably not the second. As you say, we'd be back to square one. Edited by southnorwoodhill (23 Oct 2023 5.40am)
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Originally posted by Elwissthebest

I'm always impressed by southnorwoodhill's posts.

Even if we had money, I'm not sure we'd spend it. There's much to be said for good housekeeping, but the Premiership is littered with good players we might have signed but didn't. Serial underachievers for many years, Newcastle has now joined the ranks of those teams who can tonk you 4-0 or worse. Never has the Premiership been less of a level playing field. Our manifest destiny is to finish the season as far up the bottom half as we can. Just when it seems that with 'two or three more signings' etc., etc., we'll find that we are trying to hang on to those players like Andersen, Guehi, Olise, Eze who will inevitably be poached. So then we need seven players again!
After the Spurs game, which could easily be another 4-0, twelve points from ten games will be about right, given who we've played. Another seven wins should keep us up because in achieving that, we'll have drawn five more games along the way, =38 points.

This time next season we'll be discussing whether we have enough to beat Leicester and Leeds.

Thanks! When I have my sensible cap on I try to reason objectively.
With the players you mention, it seems to me that it has taken a couple of seasons for them to realise their potential, and accordingly attract attention. Therefore if Parish wishes to build the stand and remain in the PL, selling our best players may help achieve the first, but probably not the second. As you say, we'd be back to square one.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (23 Oct 2023 5.40am)

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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 23 Oct 23 6.40am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill Thanks! When I have my sensible cap on I try to reason objectively. With the players you mention, it seems to me that it has taken a couple of seasons for them to realise their potential, and accordingly attract attention. Therefore if Parish wishes to build the stand and remain in the PL, selling our best players may help achieve the first, but probably not the second. As you say, we'd be back to square one. Edited by southnorwoodhill (23 Oct 2023 5.40am) What was the figure to build the main stand 150 million? The match day revenue per game for the main stand has been worked out at 7 million for every match. It won’t take long to pay that off!
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Edited by southnorwoodhill (23 Oct 2023 5.40am)

What was the figure to build the main stand 150 million? The match day revenue per game for the main stand has been worked out at 7 million for every match. It won’t take long to pay that off!

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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Oct 23 7.47am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews What was the figure to build the main stand 150 million? The match day revenue per game for the main stand has been worked out at 7 million for every match. It won’t take long to pay that off! That sounds a bit high? I thought it was 10-12 million per season? Don't know where I read that so could well be wrong. One more point
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Beckenham 23 Oct 23 7.47am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

What was the figure to build the main stand 150 million? The match day revenue per game for the main stand has been worked out at 7 million for every match. It won’t take long to pay that off!

That sounds a bit high?

I thought it was 10-12 million per season? Don't know where I read that so could well be wrong.

One more point

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southnorwoodhill 23 Oct 23 7.50am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews What was the figure to build the main stand 150 million? The match day revenue per game for the main stand has been worked out at 7 million for every match. It won’t take long to pay that off! £7m per game? Where did you come by this figure if I may ask?
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23 Oct 23 7.50am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

What was the figure to build the main stand 150 million? The match day revenue per game for the main stand has been worked out at 7 million for every match. It won’t take long to pay that off!

£7m per game? Where did you come by this figure if I may ask?

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 23 Oct 23 8.14am
Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle Mate our first XI when/if all fit will be; Johnstone Ferguson - but will we ever see him fit..?? If not I’d go Richards. Andersen Guehi Mitchell Decoure Lerma Eze Franca Olise Edouard Get this XI on the pitch and we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are and what is realistically achievable this season. To me on paper looks awesome - but time will tell..!! COYP Not a bad shout, but I'd keep Ward at RB. He's upped his game recently and Ferguson is unproven in my book. And, what's Edouard doing on your teamsheet? Be bold, go with JRS. Edited by Palace Old Geezer (23 Oct 2023 9.02am) Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Mate our first XI when/if all fit will be;

Johnstone
Ferguson - but will we ever see him fit..?? If not I’d go Richards.
Andersen
Guehi
Mitchell
Decoure
Lerma
Eze
Franca
Olise
Edouard

Get this XI on the pitch and we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are and what is realistically achievable this season.

To me on paper looks awesome - but time will tell..!!

COYP

Not a bad shout, but I'd keep Ward at RB. He's upped his game recently and Ferguson is unproven in my book. And, what's Edouard doing on your teamsheet? Be bold, go with JRS.

Edited by Palace Old Geezer (23 Oct 2023 9.02am)

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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YT Oxford 23 Oct 23 8.22am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill An interesting point, but this could have been argued for any of the 10 seasons past - "if only we had" etc. Fact is we didn't and look unlikely to in the near future. I note with interest that our average finish for those 10 seasons has been 12th place, and we currently sit in 11th, so pretty much par for the course. I welcome Roy's stated ambition for a top 10 finish this season, but to break into the top six would require either a significant spend or a few players from the U21 side suddenly breaking through. Yes. If only I had a tenner for every time a HOLer has posted "if only we had". Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

An interesting point, but this could have been argued for any of the 10 seasons past - "if only we had" etc. Fact is we didn't and look unlikely to in the near future.
I note with interest that our average finish for those 10 seasons has been 12th place, and we currently sit in 11th, so pretty much par for the course.
I welcome Roy's stated ambition for a top 10 finish this season, but to break into the top six would require either a significant spend or a few players from the U21 side suddenly breaking through.

Yes. If only I had a tenner for every time a HOLer has posted "if only we had".

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Oct 23 8.55am
Originally posted by Palace Passion Why do we have such depressing "supporters". We have been in the Premier league over 10 years now. We are a good London based football club. We are a bigger clubs then most like to admit and also have more money then some fans make out. We don't need to sell and we are a club in a good enough position to hold on to our best players now. We will build a squad around the likes of Johnstone, Anderson, Guehi, Mitchell, Doucoure, Lerma, Olise, Eze, França and Rak-Saki. We are only a decent young right back and a couple of decent strikers away from being a top 6 side. Not '' depressing '' more like '' realistic ''. What makes you state that the club has more money than the fans make out ? And that we don't need to sell ? You don't know that for a fact do you ? The stadium development is a huge financial undertaking, and costs have no risen by 50% since the original plans were drawn up. It would be naive to assume that the cost could be funded without the club selling any players. Old, Ungifted and White
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Originally posted by Palace Passion

Why do we have such depressing "supporters". We have been in the Premier league over 10 years now. We are a good London based football club. We are a bigger clubs then most like to admit and also have more money then some fans make out. We don't need to sell and we are a club in a good enough position to hold on to our best players now. We will build a squad around the likes of Johnstone, Anderson, Guehi, Mitchell, Doucoure, Lerma, Olise, Eze, França and Rak-Saki. We are only a decent young right back and a couple of decent strikers away from being a top 6 side.

Not '' depressing '' more like '' realistic ''.

What makes you state that the club has more money than the fans make out ? And that we don't need to sell ? You don't know that for a fact do you ?

The stadium development is a huge financial undertaking, and costs have no risen by 50% since the original plans were drawn up. It would be naive to assume that the cost could be funded without the club selling any players.

Old, Ungifted and White

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Oct 23 9.00am
Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle Mate our first XI when/if all fit will be; Johnstone Ferguson - but will we ever see him fit..?? If not I’d go Richards. Andersen Guehi Mitchell Decoure Lerma Eze Franca Olise Edouard Get this XI on the pitch and we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are and what is realistically achievable this season. To me on paper looks awesome - but time will tell..!! COYP Sadly, I think we should discount Ferguson - at least for now. Yes, that's a potentially good X1, but you said it yourself, if/when all fit. Already the season has been disrupted by injuries. In my opinion the squad is still short on quality. That situation could improve if the likes to Rak-Sakyi and Ozoh continue to progress. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Oct 23 9.00am

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Mate our first XI when/if all fit will be;

Johnstone
Ferguson - but will we ever see him fit..?? If not I’d go Richards.
Andersen
Guehi
Mitchell
Decoure
Lerma
Eze
Franca
Olise
Edouard

Get this XI on the pitch and we’ll have a clearer picture of where we are and what is realistically achievable this season.

To me on paper looks awesome - but time will tell..!!

COYP

Sadly, I think we should discount Ferguson - at least for now.

Yes, that's a potentially good X1, but you said it yourself, if/when all fit. Already the season has been disrupted by injuries.

In my opinion the squad is still short on quality. That situation could improve if the likes to Rak-Sakyi and Ozoh continue to progress.

Old, Ungifted and White

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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 23 Oct 23 9.01am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill £7m per game? Where did you come by this figure if I may ask? There was a Steve Parish interview recently. I’m not sure where I read it now?
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Kenley 23 Oct 23 9.01am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

£7m per game? Where did you come by this figure if I may ask?

There was a Steve Parish interview recently. I’m not sure where I read it now?

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southnorwoodhill 23 Oct 23 9.11am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews There was a Steve Parish interview recently. I’m not sure where I read it now? Ok. I'm reasoning that the tv money etc is not included in the total, therefore the new main stand with 13 odd thousand capacity would need every seat to spend circa £500 on match day to reach £7m. This seems unlikely, and perhaps there has been a mix up with the figures.
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23 Oct 23 9.11am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

There was a Steve Parish interview recently. I’m not sure where I read it now?

Ok. I'm reasoning that the tv money etc is not included in the total, therefore the new main stand with 13 odd thousand capacity would need every seat to spend circa £500 on match day to reach £7m. This seems unlikely, and perhaps there has been a mix up with the figures.

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