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 Spiderman  Horsham 07 Oct 20 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
Eddie Howe will be back in a job well before Roy retires. Who might have him? Barnsley? Struber should have been the type of manager we should be looking at
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Oct 20 6.52pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
We should be finishing lower mid table. Well done Roy. You've done the minimum of what was expected of you whilst playing incredible boring football, lining your own pockets whilst emptying our as we watch the slow decline of a club that's lost all reason to be optimistic. You've worked the same miracle that Pulis, Pardew, and BFS did..... moving on. We know the 3 predicessors listed have good spells but aren't outstanding. Managers have a shelf life before they run out of ideas and grind to a hault. Credit for his first two seasons (although arguably Pardew's first two full seasons were better with a worse squad) but he can't keep hiding behind excuses for last year. I think Roy is the longest serving manager in the premiership that hasn't won a league or promotion. Hodgson own motivation seems to have dwindled over time too. Dyche I see as someone who can build long term success. Howe would be a risk but the whole squad could do with someone fresh coming in to break the lethargy and add a bit of life back into things. Like Roy and BFS, he may come here feeling he has something to prove. We'd get a couple of good seasons out of Howe and it would be worth paying/travelling to go to Selhust and watch again. Wagner is currently out of the job again. There's a long list of others the do the merry-go-round, Silva, Pearson, Houghton etc. Wouldn't want any but it would stick some life in the team. Hodgson was a long, long way down the list of prefered managers when he appointed and if we appointed a manager from scratch again, he probably still wouldn't be first choice. Apparently Parish wasnt willing to pay Dyche's release clause from Burnley at the time. Then it cost more to sack FDB. The club would be wise to be looking for a longer term replacement now, rather than have a frantic search at the end of the season. Although, if they sack Roy they could now get an age discrimination case chucked at them. This is mostly made up bs. "You've done the minimum of what was expected of you whilst playing incredible boring football, lining your own pockets whilst emptying our as we watch the slow decline of a club that's lost all reason to be optimistic"? Really? "Managers have a shelf life before they run out of ideas and grind to a hault". Seriously.... I can't be bothered to address it all, but did you see, I mean actually see, a list of prefered managers?
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Oct 20 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
I'd bring benteke on. Although he doesn't score much, two things he can do are hold the ball up, and win headers. We were crying out for that saturday. Is that the same Benteke who you want out of the club?
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| Eaglecoops CR3 07 Oct 20 7.04pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Desperate stuff here. Benteke good at holding the ball up ? Since when ? For a bloke of his size it’s absolutely pathetic and his complete lack of contribution at times has been as big a problem as his goal scoring. Sorry, I totally disagree about Benteke here (but that is what this board is for). He might be crap at finishing but he does hold the ball well and makes a nuisance of himself. He also draws centre halfs to him which Ayew does not.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 07 Oct 20 7.17pm |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
on the Flip side of this, how often have we gone into the final throws of The season saying 'our goal difference is worth another point' ? If it Wasn't for this attitude in games, we wouldn't have this.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 07 Oct 20 7.43pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Why should we, that’s the clubs job, however If you want suggestions I would take Bielsa or Santo in a heartbeat. You have to remember Roy will be gone soon whatever. Sack is a very dramatic word to use, he needs to be replaced and the decision is an important one. Watford’s owners don’t understand football so comparing us with them is a poor choice. Some of their managers were decent to be fair (excluding Pearson of course who is just a thug).
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07 Oct 20 7.43pm| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Oct 20 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Just close your eyes and put your hands over your ears and pretend our results are fine. Is that how you come up with these daft ideas? Where did we finish the seasons that Hodgson has been manager? The style may be somewhat dull, but the results are fine.
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| spartakev2 Anerley 07 Oct 20 8.19pm |
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[quote=Tim Gypsy Hill '64;3563811] Is that the same Benteke who you want out of the club? I've never said I wanted him out of the club...
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Oct 20 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I can tell you don't have anything objective to add by all the petty snipes. We've finished 11th, 12th, and 14th. Hodgson's performance is slightly worse than the 4 previous season. The level of entertainment is dour. He's got the most expensive squad we've ever had assembled. Average at best and declining. So, we need top half finishes or the manager goes?
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Oct 20 8.24pm |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
I've never said I wanted him out of the club... I'm pretty sure you were one of the 'move him on' posters. I can check if you wish and I'll apologise if you didn't, but do I need to? Originally posted by spartakev2
Wasnt it a couple of seasons ago whe he was analysed as missing the most 'good chances' in the league? Sorry but all this talk about not playing to his strengths is rubbish a good striker adapts to how a team plays. I remember when he first came he was bullying defenders, now he seems as weak as a kitten. Time for him to move on, but no one will buy him because of his wages and no way would he reduce his wages.. Well anyway.... Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (07 Oct 2020 8.30pm)
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 07 Oct 20 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Just close your eyes and put your hands over your ears and pretend our results are fine. Results will be good enough to guarantee our safety again which is paramount in order to attract the sort of manager we will need in order to keep you happy, why would our club jeopardise the stability we have had with our current manager in order to satisfy your needs now, the very last thing we need to do now is spend unnecessary amounts of monies coupled with high risks that will involve our lovely little club being eaten up by Covid 19. The game plan against Chelsea was to frustrate them at one end and then frustrate them at the other, I seem to remember us doing exactly the same at Leicester City about two seasons ago when we won 4-1, Leicester had many great opportunities but our defending was solid just like it was in the first half at Chelsea where in actual fact they created very little obvious goal scoring opportunities considering they had 99% of the match, I think they actually just passed the ball from one side to the other for 90% of their possession lol and waited for our mistakes, I was somewhat surprised our forward play was toothless throughout until I noticed the fouling on Eze was becoming a bit annoying and the ref just allowed it to continue ..blah blah I do seem to remember also Mr Hodgson managing to get a good performance at home against Chelsea not too long ago, if we'd managed to defend in that game as we did in the first half this time and attack as we did the last when we scored two (yes we did! and one was actually by Benteke! ..the first being a Zaha beauty!) and not defend as we did in the second half this last time then the game could've been much more palatable ..but hey ho.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 07 Oct 20 8.33pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
No, we need a progressive upward trajectory. Not a slow decline that'a starting to rapidly accelerate. And not someone living of past "glories" that were no better than the 4 seasons before he arrived. We've lost to Everton and Chelsea this season. Hardly "a slow decline that'a starting to rapidly accelerate".
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 07 Oct 20 8.48pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I can tell you don't have anything objective to add by all the petty snipes. We've finished 11th, 12th, and 14th. Hodgson's performance is slightly worse than the 4 previous season. The level of entertainment is dour. He's got the most expensive squad we've ever had assembled. Average at best and declining. I think you'll find we've not been involved in any relegation battles with any other clubs since he took over, the only one piece of concern he has ever created was our horrendous ending to last season but that was after he'd secured safety with I think about ten games still to go (our best opportunity) and our captain had come out after the Bournemouth 0-2 and said the team were looking at the top group of clubs lol
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Goal Machine  The Cronx 07 Oct 20 9.15pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
No, we need a progressive upward trajectory. Not a slow decline that'a starting to rapidly accelerate. And not someone living of past "glories" that were no better than the 4 seasons before he arrived. Can you name the clubs who are a similar size to us who have progressed further than we have over the past 4 years?
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