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 Ray in Houston  Houston 17 Aug 17 5.38pm |
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In an interesting development, those involved in tearing down the statue of a confederate soldier are turning themselves in to the police today. Even the ones who were not subject to warrants. Edited by Ray in Houston (17 Aug 2017 5.41pm)
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
In an interesting development, those involved in tearing down the statue of a confederate soldier are turning themselves in to the police today. Even the ones who were not subject to warrants. Edited by Ray in Houston (17 Aug 2017 5.41pm) Young, stupid and white.... The world is going to s*** and they are worried about statues.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 6.06pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Young, stupid and white.... The world is going to s*** and they are worried about statues. Beats driving cars into crowds of people.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Aug 17 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Beats driving cars into crowds of people. Well yeah Jamie....antifa are a pain in the arse but their aren't Islamic terrorists looking to murder westerners....I'll give antifa that.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Statues shouldn't always be viewed as commemorations but as reminders of the past. I wouldn't imagine that any right thinking person would glorify statues of slave traders or war criminals. However, they have a place in history and as such should remain where they are. Air brushing history is not a productive endeavour and lest we forget the struggles of the past. Yeah I bet people love seeing reminders of how their grandparents were slaves whenever they go to the park, and how many people fought to keep them as slaves. I know I'd like to be reminded whilst having my lunch, about how my grandfather was owned. I notice however there doesn't seem to be too much focus in the 'history and culture' of the south about just how wrong they were about slavery, jim crow laws, lynchings, fighting against the civil rights movement etc. Surely we should have these national monuments right out where everyone can see them, in popular public parks across the south. But a lot of statues to those 'Good old boys' who fought to keep it.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Aug 17 6.13pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Beats driving cars into crowds of people. When I was young and naive I used to think that the world might be a better place by the time I was old, but it didn't take long for me to realise that it could only get worse, a lot worse. I pity future generations.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 6.14pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Well yeah Jamie....antifa are a pain in the arse but their aren't Islamic terrorists looking to murder westerners....I'll give antifa that. Or neo-Nazis - they seem to have picked up on this kind of thing.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Aug 17 6.20pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Yeah I bet people love seeing reminders of how their grandparents were slaves whenever they go to the park, and how many people fought to keep them as slaves. I know I'd like to be reminded whilst having my lunch, about how my grandfather was owned. I notice however there doesn't seem to be too much focus in the 'history and culture' of the south about just how wrong they were about slavery, jim crow laws, lynchings, fighting against the civil rights movement etc. Surely we should have these national monuments right out where everyone can see them, in popular public parks across the south. But a lot of statues to those 'Good old boys' who fought to keep it. We all have to remember slavery and segregation. It has to serve as a testament to the dark side of humanity. Those who ignore history are likely to repeat the same mistakes. Sadly, 'racial' and religious friction is inevitable when you have differing cultures in close proximity. It isn't statues that are the problem, it is people.
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regal_eagle  somewhere 17 Aug 17 6.26pm |
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Yet another statue taken down!! Surely something THAT small can't be offensive?!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 17 Aug 17 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We all have to remember slavery and segregation. It has to serve as a testament to the dark side of humanity. Those who ignore history are likely to repeat the same mistakes. Sadly, 'racial' and religious friction is inevitable when you have differing cultures in close proximity. It isn't statues that are the problem, it is people. I'm all for remembering slavery and segregation - Its just that I'd rather not do it through iconography that depicts the people who wanted it, rather than those that suffered because of it. I went to Auschwitz - Not a statue commemorating the leaders of the Nazis - They managed to remember the holocaust without a statue of a proud Nazi Commandant in full glorious pose. I'll stick to Primo Levi.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Aug 17 6.32pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Or neo-Nazis - they seem to have picked up on this kind of thing. @notallneonazis Remember Jamie....you can't brush all neo Nazis with the same brush can you. It's very much under 1 percent of the neo Nazi population.....Some guy said it so it must be true. So remember next time you are being critical of Nazis that only a few of them actually want to go out and physically harm you. So hashtag....etc etc. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2017 6.34pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Aug 17 6.37pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
@notallneonazis Remember Jamie....you can't brush all neo Nazis with the same brush can you. It's very much under 1 percent of the neo Nazi population.....Some guy said it so it must be true. So remember next time you are being critical of Nazis that only a few of them actually want to go out and physically harm you. So hashtag....etc etc. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2017 6.34pm) That's right, and I expect the NHS would collapse without neo-nazis.
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