Johnson for the win.

The MPs who don't like it should learn to hold their noses.....they gave us May and before that a lot of them thought Cameron was the bee's knees.....They have some cheek to think they know better.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

True, but at least we know he'll be shagging someone he shouldn't at some stage.....so at least he'll be good for a laugh.

And I imagine he'll throw out all this intersectional BS that May has implemented.....that goes pretty much against all of the grass roots.

I don't see Corbyn having a hope against Johnson.....a few jokes and a wink and he's toast.

The Tories would be mad to overlook him.....Essentially it should be DWTGWH.

Do What The Guardian Would Hate.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2019 11.25am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I am intrigued to know why anyone thinks it matters who the Tories choose when it's Parliament as a whole who now control the agenda.

Being already split down the middle choosing a committed Brexiteer as PM would deepen and widen that split and not enable any kind of resolution. Add to that the fact that whatever is agreed still has to be accepted by the EU.

Parliament clearly will not allow a "no-deal" Brexit to be passed and I cannot see the EU being goaded into forcing one through the disruptive tactics of disenchanted British MEPs. I think they will find ways of handling them.

May's resignation therefore seems to me to be more likely to create more problems than it solves. As if we didn't have enough already.

I suppose there is still a chance that the Tories might regain enough sense to put forward two middle of the road choices to the membership for them to make a final decision and not include a hardliner. A choice between Amber Rudd and Jeremy Hunt makes sense. Then someone could make another attempt to find a path through this mess. Include any hardliner against one of them and the conservative shires would choose the hardliner and the mess gets deeper as a consequence.

I think though that it is now looking increasingly likely that Brexit will again have to be delayed until after a GE is held, which raises the spectre of a Corbyn led coalition, which is not a pretty sight to these eyes.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I realise all of that but if the Tories choose a committed Brexiteer, as seems likely, then things will only get worse. I know that's what the membership want but they too are, in the main, hardline no-deal Brexiteers.

My speculation was whether the Tory MPs would have sufficient foresight not to take that route so as to avoid the decimation that would probably follow it.

As in all situations it is the job of the MP's to give their electorate what they need, which is not always what they want.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

If a Brexiteer is chosen as PM (which should happen in 2016) it will help to test the idea that a Brexiteer PM is capable to deliver Brexit with a concrete plan for UK by avoiding any devastating damage to economy but opening promising gates for trading as promised before referendum.

If he / she fails as well, that will probably end with GE. And after GE,

If Brexit Party wins with a reasonable majority, there will be no-deal Brexit.

If not, there will be no Brexit.

Deep down I think Wisbech is right on the process of the new Tory leadership. It’ll then go:

New Tory leader.

General election.

Labour offers a referendum with remain as an option. We might remain.

Tories either don’t or offer one without remain. Somehow hopefully the people will get Parliament to get this through somehow after so long of limited negative effects, and the realisation that most of the scaremongering was pure bollox might get through to even more people.

COYP

If a general election does happen i'd expect many brixiteers taking the seats of the mps who went against there constituencies!

He raises some interesting points. I don't see there being a General Election anytime soon though, as it'd probably wind up as inconclusive as the previous one.

The only exception to that I think is if a new leader such as Johnson, can convince the party to get behind a pure 'Leave' message, much as the way the Brexit Party has done. If they can, and rely on Corbyn's message to remain unclear, that would split the Labour vote somewhat.

Fact remains that since 1965 the only constant in a Conservative leadership contest is that the favourite has not won.