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 Stirlingsays  28 Aug 19 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I am moving onto milk shakes. Apparently far more dangerous. For the thrower yeah.....you are better off drinking it and writing a nasty letter. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Aug 2019 5.09pm)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Not really BoJo still has May's deal available to him, if push comes to shove he simply re-heats it a bit with some added turmeric, nobody will notice it isn't freshly prepared.
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
For the thrower yeah. Throw? How old fashioned. Pump action for me.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Aug 19 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
A Prime Minister who is a actually listening to and carrying out the wishes of his people by referendum and then by GE manifesto instead of doing a remainer May and listening to the soon to be unelected riff raff who call themselves MPs going completely against their own constituents Well done Boris WE ARE with you Leave the EU means leave the EU The GBP The majority The wishes of the people are expressed through their Parliament who are chosen to represent them. All of them. Not just a few thousand blue rinse Tories. Not even those who turn up to vote in a referendum or at a GE. All of them. Especially, by the way, those too young to vote. That's why we choose representatives and not delegates as MPs. I have no interest, and nor should you, in the "wishes of his people". Our democracy is vested in our MPs and our Parliament and not in the result of a 3 year old referendum, the issues of which which was barely understood at the time but are much better, though still imperfectly, by the average voter. Parliament will not let this pass, of that I am quite certain.
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| Matov 28 Aug 19 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Our democracy is vested in our MPs and our Parliament and not in the result of a 3 year old referendum, the issues of which which was barely understood at the time but are much better, though still imperfectly, by the average voter. That is truly beautiful. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Parliament will not let this pass, of that I am quite certain. And they have plenty of time to change this. I for one cannot wait for JC to announce a vote of no confidence and bring down Johnson's government. Edited by Matov (28 Aug 2019 5.17pm)
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Aug 19 5.18pm |
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I think parliament, and the monarchy, is on its last legs here.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Aug 19 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Throw? How old fashioned. Pump action for me. Ooh er missus!
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Invalid user 2019 28 Aug 19 5.39pm |
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Originally posted by Gregsy
I think there should be another referendum. The leave campaign leaflet I received during the last referendum said there was very little chance of leaving the Eu without a trade deal as Europe would be bending over backwards to give us a trade deal. If people had known then we would be leaving without a trade deal I think the result of the referendum would have been quite different A once not unlikely scenario, but that ship has well and truly sailed. Out of all of the possible twists and turns over the next couple of months I find it very hard to imagine a second referendum getting a look in.
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| davenotamonkey 28 Aug 19 5.40pm |
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Originally posted by Jway89
So, what exactly was it for you? BTW, I'm not accusing you or any Brexiteer of racism. I see the benefits of of both in and out, but, imo, taking back control to me doesn't seem like a valid argument. What will we be in control of? Our Economy will tank in the next year or so, but not because we left the EU, it will tank because the actual politicians we are entrusting to deliver Brexit are the actual people that have already destroyed this economy. To be honest, and no offense, but I'm a bit tired justifying why I voted the way I did. I made considerable contributions to this thread in the lead up and aftermath of the vote (the point at which a all contracted super-gonorrhea, entered recession, lost 10% on house values, lost 500,000 jobs, had a punishment budget forced on us....). You're welcome to go hunt for my posts on here about the EU. There's plenty of them, and they are long. I just don't see the value in engaging with these "why did you vote Brexit" arguments any more. Those arguments were won over 3 years ago.
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| davenotamonkey 28 Aug 19 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Correct. I don't believe that comment comes from JRM. The Queen is politically neutral and follows precedent. Her decision does not endorse Brexit but is based on advice from her PM. JRM knows that and whenever I hear him interviewed he always chooses his words carefully. If he did tweet those words then he should be in big trouble and at the minimum should make a public apology for dragging the monarchy into party politics. Like I say I don't believe he's done that. Update: Just looked at that tweet again. Its a site set up by JRM supporters and "independent" of him. So he didn't say it whoever did though is just plain wrong. Edited by Badger11 (28 Aug 2019 4.34pm) No, he didn't tweet it. He's been busy meeting the Queen. Here's what he did have to say about the meeting: (A PeoplesProrogue hashtag - that's the best today!) [Tweet Link]
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 28 Aug 19 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
A Prime Minister who is a actually listening to and carrying out the wishes of his people by referendum and then by GE manifesto instead of doing a remainer May and listening to the soon to be unelected riff raff who call themselves MPs going completely against their own constituents Well done Boris WE ARE with you Leave the EU means leave the EU The GBP The majority Boris the man of the people against the elites. Oh wait...
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| elgrande bedford 28 Aug 19 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Dispatch rider in the 8th army by the way. Sounds like yours had similar history in terms of location. Ended up in Austria as occupying troops. My father was a gunnery sergeant in the royal artillery.
always a Norwood boy, where ever I live. |
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
To be honest, and no offense, but I'm a bit tired justifying why I voted the way I did. I made considerable contributions to this thread in the lead up and aftermath of the vote (the point at which a all contracted super-gonorrhea, entered recession, lost 10% on house values, lost 500,000 jobs, had a punishment budget forced on us....). You're welcome to go hunt for my posts on here about the EU. There's plenty of them, and they are long. I just don't see the value in engaging with these "why did you vote Brexit" arguments any more. Those arguments were won over 3 years ago. It's because you want Farage as the new State Governor of England. And coincidentally that is also what he has agreed with Trump, so that's all good.
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Aug 19 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
My father was a gunnery sergeant in the royal artillery. Hope he had ear defenders
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| Deleted11 28 Aug 19 6.08pm | |
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I've been told I come across argumentative in my emails, so I would think it's the same on these boards. I just like to get to the point, I suppose. I'm not trying to 'catch you out' in anyway, it's your right to vote and you can vote how you want. It's just that your link basically had in order 1) Making decisions 2) Immigration and a third I can't recall now. But I imagine No.1 is top of your list. I think the point I'm trying to make here is this; (BTW, I'm indifferent to Brexit and tbh, from a completely short term, selfish perspective, I would prefer we remain, so my stocks and shares could increase, hopefully my house price too and I should hopefully be able to get more $ or Euros for my £ when I go on holiday) 1) Sovereignty is a mass illusion. The politicians that are proclaiming we need to be able to make our own decisions are the ones that took them away in the 1st place. Basically, we all need to accept that we will have to bend over backwards to the demands of USA, EU or China. This has nothing to do with standing up to people or anything, it's very simply, we as a nation have to remain competitive. In that respect the crap £ may be working in our favour. 2) Immigration - Again, I completely understand the argument that the whole of the EU could camp into the UK tomorrow and we couldn't do anything about it, but that hasn't happened and is unlikely to happen and to be honest the way birth rates are decreasing in this country, if we want pensions, we're going to need more people no matter what. Basically, I don't need to read your comments, because, I understand the frustration, but, and I know this is very hippy wishy washy, we all need to hold the politicians accountable for the way they run this country. In-fighting amongst the people is what they want, but with base interest rates at 0.75 and inflation at about 2.5 as well as a falling currency, we actually have negative interest rates, so there's no point having money in the bank, we're less able to buy stuff, slowly but surely, low skilled jobs are disappearing, so no way for the next generation to get onto the job market and just learn basic social skills. Being in the EU hasn't done that. It was our Government's policy at the time to pump money into saving their mate's jobs but cut everything for the plebs. Just to end, I get the anger and frustration, but the majority of it should be at our own lot. Originally posted by davenotamonkey
To be honest, and no offense, but I'm a bit tired justifying why I voted the way I did. I made considerable contributions to this thread in the lead up and aftermath of the vote (the point at which a all contracted super-gonorrhea, entered recession, lost 10% on house values, lost 500,000 jobs, had a punishment budget forced on us....). You're welcome to go hunt for my posts on here about the EU. There's plenty of them, and they are long. I just don't see the value in engaging with these "why did you vote Brexit" arguments any more. Those arguments were won over 3 years ago.
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 Aug 19 6.21pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Boris the man of the people against the elites. Oh wait... Just like Dominic Grieve and Philip Hammond eh!!
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 Aug 19 6.23pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The wishes of the people are expressed through their Parliament who are chosen to represent them. All of them. Not just a few thousand blue rinse Tories. Not even those who turn up to vote in a referendum or at a GE. All of them. Especially, by the way, those too young to vote. That's why we choose representatives and not delegates as MPs. I have no interest, and nor should you, in the "wishes of his people". Our democracy is vested in our MPs and our Parliament and not in the result of a 3 year old referendum, the issues of which which was barely understood at the time but are much better, though still imperfectly, by the average voter. Parliament will not let this pass, of that I am quite certain. B****cks from a worried man
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 28 Aug 19 6.30pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Just like Dominic Grieve and Philip Hammond eh!! No, they are also elites. Hence the point. Cracks me up when people flip flop simply because it suits their agenda
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| davenotamonkey 28 Aug 19 6.34pm |
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They really aren't taking this Peoples-Prorogue well, are they? Utterly deranged. I'd ordinarily feel sorry for an evident loon, but I've lost patience: [Tweet Link]
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