I agree. And if you look back in this thread you will see I have repeatedly stated that we are all getting into a debate about the symptoms (Roy, aging squad, tactics, player selection etc) and not the cause which is an ownership and financing that is stagnant and stuck in the doldrums.

it's not the fans' job to come up with a solution - that's for the people that are paid handsomely at CPFC to identify and recruit the management and coaching team that will move the club forward. I think it's fair to say that we've burned through all the 'tried and tested' 'safe hands' Prem managers, so it is time to re-look at the ingredients of the chap to next take the reins. That work should have been being done over the last few years. Time will tell if that's the case.

Unless we were able to poach an experienced PL manager then we will struggle with the squad we have if Roy left (and even then we probably would). For all his detractors Roy knows how to get points and win ugly and while he clearly has flaws (such as his seeming inability to change things during the game) I believe he would see us comfortably mid-table again next season. Our ageing, depleted and small squad is not designed for playing two games a week on a regular basis and it has cost us since the lockdown. I don't understand why he still refuses to start Meyer or why Riedewald isn't getting more game time, but when you think these are the only fully-fit senior options available that are not defenders you can see what a task Roy has.

I was listening to Peter Crouch saying how Pulis did zero work with the attacking players and just left them to it while focusing solely on the defensive side of the game. Sometimes it does feel like that is the case with us, but without a play maker we struggle when the 'stick it down the left channel' doesn't work. Maybe as well as some new players we could do with a new coach to work alongside Roy and Ray who could bring some new ideas to the attacking side of our game with the view to possibly succeeding Roy?

I don't think there are many people desperate to keep Roy, I just think there are many, like me, who recognise that he has been given very little support and has somehow made us comfortable with very limited resources. The one thing that gives me hope is how well he had us playing at times when we had RLC. If we could get another high-quality player or two like that again I think we might see a different Palace.

This summer presents a conundrum for the club.
We’re strongly linked with Ferguson (WBA), Gallagher (Chelsea - on loan at Swansea) and Eze (QPR).
These are the type of young promising players that we should be seeking.
In the light of the experience with Meyer, Sorloth and Riedewald there must be huge concerns whether Hodgson can be entrusted with the use and development of young players that join.
Hodgson is very methodical in his approach and in general prefers working with experienced senior players who follow his instructions to the letter.
If Hodgson stays a case could be made for more short term deals and loans of experienced players who at least he would utilise.
Doesn’t move the club forward and is a short term measure, but do we really need to buy more young players that Hodgson won’t use.

In times of crisis leaders come to the fore....time to have a word on the mic Mr Parish and I don’t mean doing you’re own rendition of Rappers Delight...what’s your plan Mr Chairman to get us out of this s***?

A couple of things to address here.

Firstly, I would say that Meyer, Rieldewald and even Slowloth (with his goal exploits in Turkey) are not bad players, they are just not suited the the Premier League.

The problem with giving Roy money, is that come the end of next season he probably will have retired. So any incoming manager is left with what he bought, and they could be ill suited for the new manager.

Therefore if funds are going to be made available, which quite frankly I doubt, then a new manager is also required as well.

A couple of things to address here.

Firstly, I would say that Meyer, Rieldewald and even Slowloth (with his goal exploits in Turkey) are not bad players, they are just not suited the the Premier League.

The problem with giving Roy money, is that come the end of next season he probably will have retired. So any incoming manager is left with what he bought, and they could be ill suited for the new manager.

Therefore if funds are going to be made available, which quite frankly I doubt, then a new manager is also required as well.