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Eaglecoops CR3 04 Jul 21 12.16pm
So, are all the teams who didn't support taking the knee prior to kick off closet racists, because that is the inference by certain people on here?

Eaglecoops

CR3 04 Jul 21 12.16pm

So, are all the teams who didn't support taking the knee prior to kick off closet racists, because that is the inference by certain people on here?

DanH SW2 04 Jul 21 12.19pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops So, are all the teams who didn't support taking the knee prior to kick off closet racists, because that is the inference by certain people on here? Nope. If they stood the other side of the centre circle booing it then yep.

DanH

SW2 04 Jul 21 12.19pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

So, are all the teams who didn't support taking the knee prior to kick off closet racists, because that is the inference by certain people on here?

Nope. If they stood the other side of the centre circle booing it then yep.

Eaglecoops CR3 04 Jul 21 12.38pm
Originally posted by DanH Nope. If they stood the other side of the centre circle booing it then yep. Who knows what they are thinking whilst watching. Nobody I would guess. You appear to be pretty cut and dry on the point that fans who boo political gestures are themselves racist? Isn't that a racist opinion in itself as it is an opinion fixed on a group of people whom you have no true idea of their beliefs, just guesswork based on a bias?

Eaglecoops

CR3 04 Jul 21 12.38pm

Originally posted by DanH

Nope. If they stood the other side of the centre circle booing it then yep.

Who knows what they are thinking whilst watching. Nobody I would guess.

You appear to be pretty cut and dry on the point that fans who boo political gestures are themselves racist? Isn't that a racist opinion in itself as it is an opinion fixed on a group of people whom you have no true idea of their beliefs, just guesswork based on a bias?

DanH SW2 04 Jul 21 12.52pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops Who knows what they are thinking whilst watching. Nobody I would guess. You appear to be pretty cut and dry on the point that fans who boo political gestures are themselves racist? Isn't that a racist opinion in itself as it is an opinion fixed on a group of people whom you have no true idea of their beliefs, just guesswork based on a bias? Booing a political gesture isn’t racist. Booing an anti-racism gesture is racist. Happy to clarify things for you. And I see lots of things every day I disagree with but I don’t stand there booing them. Weird behaviour. Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 12.53pm)

DanH

SW2 04 Jul 21 12.52pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Who knows what they are thinking whilst watching. Nobody I would guess.

Booing a political gesture isn’t racist. Booing an anti-racism gesture is racist. Happy to clarify things for you.

And I see lots of things every day I disagree with but I don’t stand there booing them. Weird behaviour.

Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 12.53pm)

Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 04 Jul 21 1.03pm
Originally posted by DanH Booing is not supporting. You are fundamentally wrong. Your team/club plays s* or does something s*, out of anger and/or frustration you boo or slag them off. Does that disqualify from being a supporter?

Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 04 Jul 21 1.03pm

Originally posted by DanH

Booing is not supporting. You are fundamentally wrong.

Your team/club plays s*** or does something s***, out of anger and/or frustration you boo or slag them off.

Does that disqualify from being a supporter?

Teddy Eagle 04 Jul 21 1.05pm
Originally posted by DanH Booing a political gesture isn’t racist. Booing an anti-racism gesture is racist. Happy to clarify things for you. And I see lots of things every day I disagree with but I don’t stand there booing them. Weird behaviour. Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 12.53pm) So it’s permissible to boo some political gestures but not others. Who decides this demarcation? How do you know those booing aren’t booing the state of society which makes kneeling a necessity?

Teddy Eagle

04 Jul 21 1.05pm

Originally posted by DanH

Booing a political gesture isn’t racist. Booing an anti-racism gesture is racist. Happy to clarify things for you.

And I see lots of things every day I disagree with but I don’t stand there booing them. Weird behaviour.

Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 12.53pm)

So it’s permissible to boo some political gestures but not others. Who decides this demarcation?
How do you know those booing aren’t booing the state of society which makes kneeling a necessity?

Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 04 Jul 21 1.06pm
Originally posted by DanH Booing a political gesture isn’t racist. Booing an anti-racism gesture is racist. Happy to clarify things for you. And I see lots of things every day I disagree with but I don’t stand there booing them. Weird behaviour. Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 12.53pm) Ha ha, you've said it. All the people I know who are fed up with (and even angry with) the knee are racist. Being anti-racist is not a natural emotion, you have to follow rules of behaviour to be that. That's the kernel of your argument isn't it? Edited by Slimey Toad (04 Jul 2021 1.07pm)

Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 04 Jul 21 1.06pm

Originally posted by DanH

Booing a political gesture isn’t racist. Booing an anti-racism gesture is racist. Happy to clarify things for you.

And I see lots of things every day I disagree with but I don’t stand there booing them. Weird behaviour.

Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 12.53pm)

Ha ha, you've said it. All the people I know who are fed up with (and even angry with) the knee are racist.

Being anti-racist is not a natural emotion, you have to follow rules of behaviour to be that. That's the kernel of your argument isn't it?

Edited by Slimey Toad (04 Jul 2021 1.07pm)

Badger11 Beckenham 04 Jul 21 1.09pm
It sounds like "other opinions are not available" One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 04 Jul 21 1.09pm

It sounds like "other opinions are not available"

One more point

Stirlingsays 04 Jul 21 1.26pm
Yet Dan has made negative comments specific to all white males. Dan, if you feel the need to kneel in front of some white males.....I would understand from your perspective but still completely disagree with it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

04 Jul 21 1.26pm

Yet Dan has made negative comments specific to all white males.

Dan, if you feel the need to kneel in front of some white males.....I would understand from your perspective but still completely disagree with it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

PalazioVecchio south pole 04 Jul 21 1.26pm
Keep politics our of sport. Especially bullyboy politics in support of a convicted criminal who served 8 separate jail terms. Choose your political heroes more wisely. Keep them out of sport. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 04 Jul 21 1.26pm

Keep politics our of sport. Especially bullyboy politics in support of a convicted criminal who served 8 separate jail terms.

Choose your political heroes more wisely. Keep them out of sport.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

DanH SW2 04 Jul 21 1.44pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yet Dan has made negative comments specific to all white males. Dan, if you feel the need to kneel in front of some white males.....I would understand from your perspective but still completely disagree with it. I never said all white males did I? But you are the most precious of them all.

DanH

SW2 04 Jul 21 1.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yet Dan has made negative comments specific to all white males.

Dan, if you feel the need to kneel in front of some white males.....I would understand from your perspective but still completely disagree with it.

I never said all white males did I? But you are the most precious of them all.

Stirlingsays 04 Jul 21 1.57pm
Originally posted by DanH I never said all white males did I? But you are the most precious of them all. Well, yeah you did, to quote you: 'None so fragile and precious as the white male ego.' Change the word white for black and then tell me that you're anti racist. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2021 1.58pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

04 Jul 21 1.57pm

Originally posted by DanH

I never said all white males did I? But you are the most precious of them all.

Well, yeah you did, to quote you:

'None so fragile and precious as the white male ego.'

Change the word white for black and then tell me that you're anti racist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2021 1.58pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 04 Jul 21 2.26pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well, yeah you did, to quote you: 'None so fragile and precious as the white male ego.' Change the word white for black and then tell me that you're anti racist. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2021 1.58pm) Really are the biggest snowflake out aren’t you. I am a white male. Just a self aware one. Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 2.27pm)

DanH

SW2 04 Jul 21 2.26pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, yeah you did, to quote you:

'None so fragile and precious as the white male ego.'

Change the word white for black and then tell me that you're anti racist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jul 2021 1.58pm)

Really are the biggest snowflake out aren’t you.

I am a white male. Just a self aware one.

Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 2.27pm)

Stirlingsays 04 Jul 21 2.43pm
Originally posted by DanH Really are the biggest snowflake out aren’t you. I am a white male. Just a self aware one. Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 2.27pm) Snowflake? What because I value truth? Self aware? Chance would be a good thing. You're that self hating white progressive type....what the Chinese call baizuo. You just believe what you're taught and what you think fits in with your bubble. You're the type who'd have been a slaver back in the day if it fitted in with the bubble around you. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

04 Jul 21 2.43pm

Originally posted by DanH

Really are the biggest snowflake out aren’t you.

I am a white male. Just a self aware one.

Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 2.27pm)

Snowflake? What because I value truth?

Self aware? Chance would be a good thing. You're that self hating white progressive type....what the Chinese call baizuo.

You just believe what you're taught and what you think fits in with your bubble. You're the type who'd have been a slaver back in the day if it fitted in with the bubble around you.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

PalazioVecchio south pole 05 Jul 21 12.26am
Originally posted by DanH Really are the biggest snowflake out aren’t you. I am a white male. Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 2.27pm) Yes, but are you a real man ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 05 Jul 21 12.26am

Originally posted by DanH

Really are the biggest snowflake out aren’t you.

I am a white male.

Edited by DanH (04 Jul 2021 2.27pm)

Yes, but are you a real man ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

silvertop Portishead 05 Jul 21 9.37am
A surgeon just took part of my knee and stuck something else in. Feckin hurts!

silvertop

Portishead 05 Jul 21 9.37am

A surgeon just took part of my knee and stuck something else in.

Feckin hurts!

Pembroke Bristol 05 Jul 21 5.36pm
Originally posted by DanH Booing is not supporting. You are fundamentally wrong. When Scotland fans booed God Save the Queen does that then mean they can't support their team?

Pembroke

Bristol 05 Jul 21 5.36pm

Originally posted by DanH

Booing is not supporting. You are fundamentally wrong.

When Scotland fans booed God Save the Queen does that then mean they can't support their team?

Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 07 Jul 21 12.51pm
Originally posted by Pembroke When Scotland fans booed God Save the Queen does that then mean they can't support their team? Did you notice their anthem was Flower Of Scotland, whereas England's was God Save The Queen (the anthem of Great Britain. Isn't that Scotland's too? Why doesn't England have it's own particular ditty to stand silent or sing to? The theme tune to The Archers for example?

Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 07 Jul 21 12.51pm

Originally posted by Pembroke

When Scotland fans booed God Save the Queen does that then mean they can't support their team?

Did you notice their anthem was Flower Of Scotland, whereas England's was God Save The Queen (the anthem of Great Britain.

Isn't that Scotland's too? Why doesn't England have it's own particular ditty to stand silent or sing to? The theme tune to The Archers for example?

Eaglecoops CR3 07 Jul 21 1.06pm
Originally posted by Slimey Toad Did you notice their anthem was Flower Of Scotland, whereas England's was God Save The Queen (the anthem of Great Britain. Isn't that Scotland's too? Why doesn't England have it's own particular ditty to stand silent or sing to? The theme tune to The Archers for example? I agree, but rather ironically, wasn’t it Billy Connolly who suggested that

Eaglecoops

CR3 07 Jul 21 1.06pm

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Did you notice their anthem was Flower Of Scotland, whereas England's was God Save The Queen (the anthem of Great Britain.

Isn't that Scotland's too? Why doesn't England have it's own particular ditty to stand silent or sing to? The theme tune to The Archers for example?

I agree, but rather ironically, wasn’t it Billy Connolly who suggested that

BlueJay UK 07 Jul 21 1.13pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Yes, but are you a real man ? Only black women on the Ricki Lake show are allowed to ask this question!

BlueJay

UK 07 Jul 21 1.13pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Yes, but are you a real man ?

Only black women on the Ricki Lake show are allowed to ask this question!

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