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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 15 Jan 21 9.20pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no expectation at all of always being right. I am married so that hope was removed years ago.

I do though dislike seeing assertions being made which are based upon a fundamental mistake, albeit one which is shared with many others. So far from me "needing help" I am doing my best, without any realistic prospect of success, to help you.

I have no more sympathy for people celebrating their "blackness" than I do for people bleating about "whiteness". I want it all to stop and people to talk about culture and not simply skin colour.

Of course prejudice exists everywhere. I make no excuses for any of it, even if I understand some better than others. However, we need to deal with those things we are personally able to deal with.

So if you are prejudiced do something about it. That's the way to make a difference.

1 yet your posts come across as 'I am right you are wrong"
2 I am doing my best to 'help' you...really? Still you include the veiled insult 'without any realistic prospect of success. We dont want your help thanks very much..


Edited by the silurian (15 Jan 2021 9.21pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Jan 21 9.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

'The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man.' (Malcolm X)

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'I can't stand innuendo. If I see one in a script I whip it out immediately.' (Kenneth Williams)

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jan 21 9.35pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

1 yet your posts come across as 'I am right you are wrong"
2 I am doing my best to 'help' you...really? Still you include the veiled insult 'without any realistic prospect of success. We dont want your help thanks very much..


Edited by the silurian (15 Jan 2021 9.21pm)

Who are "we" here? Have you been appointed as a spokesperson? I rather suspect that position has been taken.

That you manage to translate me being sarcastic into an insult is rather revealing. If my skin was that thin I would not have any left.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jan 21 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man.' (Malcolm X)

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Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2021 9.30pm)

Strange to see you quoting Malcolm X! He said a lot of things and as with most people some are wise in their time and daft later. That is in the latter category. I did though find another that would be useful for you to consider:-

I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being, first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.

and one that I ought to ponder:-

Don't be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn't do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn't know what you know today.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Strange to see you quoting Malcolm X! He said a lot of things and as with most people some are wise in their time and daft later. That is in the latter category. I did though find another that would be useful for you to consider:-

I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being, first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.

and one that I ought to ponder:-

Don't be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn't do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn't know what you know today.

You overlook his most important few words which are still the trueist with what is still, and has gone on recently. "Why is the head of the snake white"
What do you think he meant by that?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Jan 21 3.03am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Strange to see you quoting Malcolm X! He said a lot of things and as with most people some are wise in their time and daft later. That is in the latter category. I did though find another that would be useful for you to consider:-

I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being, first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.

and one that I ought to ponder:-

Don't be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn't do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn't know what you know today.

Whereas I think you should take the highlighted text far more seriously than you do.

I fail to see why you would consider it strange for me to quote Malcolm X.

Malcolm X was a highly intelligent separatist who represented his community. He said plenty of anti white comments like celebrating a plane crash with all white fatalities. Still, when it came to logic he held his own.

He was certainly correct in appraising the threats against his community and when you look at what's become of them in the US he was prophetic.

 


'I can't stand innuendo. If I see one in a script I whip it out immediately.' (Kenneth Williams)

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Please stop it. Im sick of it. Way past its sell by date even if most of our players are black.

 

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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Please stop it. Im sick of it. Way past its sell by date even if most of our players are black.

I don't think it will end, unless it affects finances.

 


'I can't stand innuendo. If I see one in a script I whip it out immediately.' (Kenneth Williams)

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 16 Jan 21 6.45am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who are "we" here? Have you been appointed as a spokesperson? I rather suspect that position has been taken.

That you manage to translate me being sarcastic into an insult is rather revealing. If my skin was that thin I would not have any left.

Not responding to you anymore, waste of time as you only see your side of the debate, never accept that anyone other than yourself could possibly be correct or have an opinion that matters.....you stay in your white middle class existence in probably the least diverse county in the UK, enjoy the scenery, but for now, Im out of your one sided biased debates..talking to you is like talking to porridge..theres an insult just for you!!!
Coming back to Cornwall very soon.....

 

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Originally posted by the silurian

Not responding to you anymore, waste of time as you only see your side of the debate, never accept that anyone other than yourself could possibly be correct or have an opinion that matters.....you stay in your white middle class existence in probably the least diverse county in the UK, enjoy the scenery, but for now, Im out of your one sided biased debates..talking to you is like talking to porridge..theres an insult just for you!!!
Coming back to Cornwall very soon.....

This isn't the first time it's been mentioned.
For myself I reckon he's Cornish Past-it-y.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 21 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Not responding to you anymore,

For that I, and I expect most others on here, are extremely relieved.

talking to you is like talking to porridge.

Nah. Porridge is stiff, starchy and difficult to stir! I am much more like cornflakes. Crisp, bright and ready to serve.

Coming back to Cornwall very soon.....

An unwise and potentially illegal move. Police patrols looking for rogue interlopers from Devon trying to escape their poor understanding of how to serve cream teas and steal our pasties are particularly thick on the ground in Blackwater.

Seriously though we all need to follow the rules and stay at home if we are going to beat this. Those who think they know better, or that they are entitled to get away with things, need to think again and start behaving responsibly.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Jan 21 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no expectation at all of always being right. I am married so that hope was removed years ago.

I do though dislike seeing assertions being made which are based upon a fundamental mistake, albeit one which is shared with many others. So far from me "needing help" I am doing my best, without any realistic prospect of success, to help you.

I have no more sympathy for people celebrating their "blackness" than I do for people bleating about "whiteness". I want it all to stop and people to talk about culture and not simply skin colour.

Of course prejudice exists everywhere. I make no excuses for any of it, even if I understand some better than others. However, we need to deal with those things we are personally able to deal with.

So if you are prejudiced do something about it. That's the way to make a difference.

Well thank you so much for trying to help me.
I do hope for your sake that you are being humourous.

Those of a politically ambitious persuasion prefer to keep these subjects simple. Skin colour is both suitably divisive and free from nuance. They don't like the messy and sometimes uncomfortable details getting in the way.

 

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