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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 17 Sep 19 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So compare that fact of an open mind to climate change being man made or not. Are you serious? There is no genuine doubt about climate change being, in part at least, influenced by man's activities. the only opposition comes from those who have a commercial interest in resisting the necessary actions and the "research" that they fund to support them. Such arguments don't convince me. Nor do they most people. Brexit is different. That's down to individual judgements about what ultimately is in our best interests and there can be merit in both viewpoints. Even if some people don't understand the process of how the UK reaches it's overall conclusions.
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cryrst  The garden of England 17 Sep 19 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you serious? There is no genuine doubt about climate change being, in part at least, influenced by man's activities. the only opposition comes from those who have a commercial interest in resisting the necessary actions and the "research" that they fund to support them. Such arguments don't convince me. Nor do they most people. Brexit is different. That's down to individual judgements about what ultimately is in our best interests and there can be merit in both viewpoints. Even if some people don't understand the process of how the UK reaches it's overall conclusions. Who's proved that its man made or influenced by man.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Sep 19 10.19pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Who's proved that its man made or influenced by man. Scientists all over the world have proved it! As I think I told people here before 20 years ago I got to know one of the most senior scientists at the UEA in Norwich in their climate research unit. This is the major research station on this in the UK and they advise government whilst taking on research projects on impact assessments for other, smaller, countries. She was 100% convinced that man's contribution to global warming is real, even back then, and it's certainty has hardened since among others. That there is a range of possible outcomes is also true but that it is happening is not in doubt in the real scientific community. Only with politicians who want to push continual growth and re-election. My friend has the highest integrity of anyone you can imagine, so if she says it's true, then it's true. Whether you choose to believe it is another matter, but that doesn't stop it being true. That some make money from it, whilst others choose to deny it is also true, but that's different. It's true. Man made climate change is real.
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| Mapletree Croydon 17 Sep 19 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Anyone who was a reader of the Trump thread at the time knows exactly what this guy was writing.....it's all there saved.....Quite amusing some of it....just not intentionally.
You always do this Specific quotes please. Your innuendo is simple smearing unless provable
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| Stirlingsays 17 Sep 19 10.33pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
You always do this Specific quotes please. Your innuendo is simple smearing unless provable You suggesting that I'm lying? Read the thread, it's all there, it's page upon page.....you are seriously suggesting that I'm not telling the truth about this clown spending 'months on the Trump thread pushing the Russian collusion conspiracy theory and telling us that the Mueller report was taking orange man down.'? Last time I bothered to prodice evidence on this joker you came up with weak excuses for him. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Sep 2019 10.35pm)
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| Stirlingsays 17 Sep 19 10.37pm |
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There you go Maple.....feel that egg sliding down your face yet?
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| W12 17 Sep 19 11.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There was a recent documentary exposing the conspiracy theories that have built up around Soros and explaining why he has been selected as the target. Finding a bogeyman to blame for everything stops you having to actually explain your own policies. Trump learned that from Roy Cohn and has relentlessly followed it ever since, along with never apologise always attack your critic. Soros fits the Trump campaign needs perfectly. Rich but liberal in outlook. Has established foundations intended to encourage democracy, Blaming him has become a mantra of the right and populists everywhere, to the degree that many on the right now believe it implicitly. It's fake. Totally fake. It's just a shameful campaign tactic. Just found this. Check it out and follow the link to watch the documentary:- Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Sep 2019 7.13pm) I saw that documentary....on the BBC You are stuck in the matrix forever sunshine
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Teddy Eagle  17 Sep 19 11.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you serious? There is no genuine doubt about climate change being, in part at least, influenced by man's activities. the only opposition comes from those who have a commercial interest in resisting the necessary actions and the "research" that they fund to support them. Such arguments don't convince me. Nor do they most people. The Huronian glaciation was over two billion years ago and there have been at least four ice ages since then. How influenced were they by man’s activities?
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Sep 19 12.48am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Scientists all over the world have proved it! As I think I told people here before 20 years ago I got to know one of the most senior scientists at the UEA in Norwich in their climate research unit. This is the major research station on this in the UK and they advise government whilst taking on research projects on impact assessments for other, smaller, countries. She was 100% convinced that man's contribution to global warming is real, even back then, and it's certainty has hardened since among others. That there is a range of possible outcomes is also true but that it is happening is not in doubt in the real scientific community. Only with politicians who want to push continual growth and re-election. My friend has the highest integrity of anyone you can imagine, so if she says it's true, then it's true. Whether you choose to believe it is another matter, but that doesn't stop it being true. That some make money from it, whilst others choose to deny it is also true, but that's different. It's true. Man made climate change is real.
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| cryrst The garden of England 18 Sep 19 6.09am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Pluck pluck
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 18 Sep 19 6.12am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Scientists all over the world have proved it! As I think I told people here before 20 years ago I got to know one of the most senior scientists at the UEA in Norwich in their climate research unit. This is the major research station on this in the UK and they advise government whilst taking on research projects on impact assessments for other, smaller, countries. She was 100% convinced that man's contribution to global warming is real, even back then, and it's certainty has hardened since among others. That there is a range of possible outcomes is also true but that it is happening is not in doubt in the real scientific community. Only with politicians who want to push continual growth and re-election. My friend has the highest integrity of anyone you can imagine, so if she says it's true, then it's true. Whether you choose to believe it is another matter, but that doesn't stop it being true. That some make money from it, whilst others choose to deny it is also true, but that's different. It's true. Man made climate change is real. Not biased at all then. She worked in a unit that depended upon finding evidence otherwise there would be no need for them and their funding would dry up
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Sep 19 7.52am |
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Originally posted by W12
I saw that documentary....on the BBC You are stuck in the matrix forever sunshine So you think that anything investigated by the BBC and then reported on must, by definition, be false? I watch, evaluate, compare with that I already know and then reach a conclusion. That report was fair and objective. It needed to be done to counter the ridiculous claims that have been circulated by the right on Soros for years. He is such an easy target to pick. Rich, dislikes populists, has funded foundations which operate at arms length and Jewish.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Sep 19 7.56am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The Huronian glaciation was over two billion years ago and there have been at least four ice ages since then. How influenced were they by man’s activities? They weren't! What's your point? No-one denies that natural variation occurs. We cannot, currently at least, control that so just have to understand and prepare for it. Man made warming exists separately. We can both understand and prepare for it AND moderate it's impact when it can be seen to be as negative as it is.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Sep 19 8.04am |
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Originally posted by mezzer
Not biased at all then. She worked in a unit that depended upon finding evidence otherwise there would be no need for them and their funding would dry up Of course she did, but she wasn't involved in the funding. Maybe I too would be suspicious of the motivation if I did not know her as I did. She wasn't the least bit political or interested in wealth. She lived simply and entirely for her science. At 30 she held a double doctorate and had a quite brilliant mind, the best I have ever had the honour to know personally. Her integrity was beyond reproach. So I don't have the slightest doubt that what she said came from her genuine knowledge and beliefs. I cannot force you to believe me, but this is something I know for sure.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Sep 19 8.30am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Yep,I can see why Luxembourg don't want us to leave. They've been milking the teats of the EU to long. And now we are leaving It looks like that their Ponzi scheme is about to hit the buffers Founder members of the EU with us at the bottom of the beneficiary table there and where the issues begin. Nobody had a problem with it being Western Europe.
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| W12 18 Sep 19 9.02am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So you think that anything investigated by the BBC and then reported on must, by definition, be false? I watch, evaluate, compare with that I already know and then reach a conclusion. That report was fair and objective. It needed to be done to counter the ridiculous claims that have been circulated by the right on Soros for years. He is such an easy target to pick. Rich, dislikes populists, has funded foundations which operate at arms length and Jewish. "That report was fair and objective" "It needed to be done to counter" LOL
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Sep 19 9.15am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
If you don't want another 10 years of this s***e then the lib-dems are for you. Unfortunately that means they have to be voted in which looks unlikely. The best course to avoid the UK being a terminal laughing stock is simply to cancel the whole thing. Are you at the Lib Dem conference, clapping like a Seal to their fantasy politics and Jo’s practiced wooden speeches?
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