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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 19 Apr 22 11.08am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
It was one example of stretching the definition of asylum, In Iran they execute gays so that is a valid reason to claim asylum as it is state sponsored. As for the French they will not do anything until migrants stop trying to get to the UK and decide to settle in France. What a burden it is that English is the first foreign language, most others learn. I think it's a big factor in many decisions on where people decide to head. Maybe we should all start speaking French, then there would be no point in risking the boat trip!
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| gambler Kent 19 Apr 22 11.15am |
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Not one "asylum seeker" is ever going to be sent to Rwanda. Won't happen.
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Apr 22 11.19am |
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Am I the only person who upon every time I click 'news and politics', and see the title of this thread, my inner monologue immediately echoes 'WE'VE GOT FUN AND GAMES' in my head? My instinct tells me that the definition of 'fun and games' is very different to Rwandans than the members of Guns n Roses however.
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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Teddy Eagle  19 Apr 22 12.23pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What a burden it is that English is the first foreign language, most others learn. I think it's a big factor in many decisions on where people decide to head. Maybe we should all start speaking French, then there would be no point in risking the boat trip! It’s possible that the absence of ID cards in Britain is also a factor.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 19 Apr 22 1.17pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What on earth has that, even it were true, got to do with anything? Newly arrived immigrants tend to go where there is work and an established community. That is usually the big cities. The seasonal work here tends to be unattractive to such people, unless temporarily here on a specific agricultural scheme. The NHS employs many international workers, but you are unlikely to be aware of them unless you use the NHS. They work. They don't play. Cornwall is a tourist, agricultural, fishing and retirement area. None of which hold much attraction for new immigrants. Really? I would have thought farming and fishing would be right up their street as most are rural uneducated poor. Edited by Badger11 (19 Apr 2022 1.17pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 19 Apr 22 1.19pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
The irish government will be sending irish citizens off to Rwanda. To stop all their complaining. I await the latest sound sensation. A fusion of African drums and diddly dee music.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 19 Apr 22 1.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I await the latest sound sensation. A fusion of African drums and diddly dee music. 'The Fairytale of Kigali' a shoo in for a Christmas no1 in the future.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 19 Apr 22 4.23pm |
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And that is part of the problem; they aren't all asylum seekers now. Most are economic migrants but because they claim to be asylum seekers the UK government has to go the verification process. And then we have 'concerned people' stopping planes from repatriating failed asylum seekers. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's an obviously unrealistic concept. If "all 8 billion" turned up, they couldn't all be asylum seekers because it would have to include everyone they were fleeing from too! This is an international problem that cannot be solved by one country setting its own arbitrary limits, which would create more problems than it solved. If international conventions need modification, then they need to be agreed at UN level. That's not to say we cannot take a firm line on determining who is genuinely entitled to asylum, process things more quickly and avoid the impression of us being a soft target for the victims of the people smuggling gangs, but just setting a number is an impractical, unattainable approach.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 19 Apr 22 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What on earth has that, even it were true, got to do with anything? Newly arrived immigrants tend to go where there is work and an established community. That is usually the big cities. The seasonal work here tends to be unattractive to such people, unless temporarily here on a specific agricultural scheme. The NHS employs many international workers, but you are unlikely to be aware of them unless you use the NHS. They work. They don't play. Cornwall is a tourist, agricultural, fishing and retirement area. None of which hold much attraction for new immigrants. it has everything to do with it....it IS true..just because you poo poo the people complaining about ILLEGAL migrants as it doesnt affect your life doesnt mean its ok to let untold thousands of them in......I walked around St Ives Falmouth, and Truro and never once saw any groups of African migrants sitting around in any of those places...in your mind I suppose thats because they are ALL at WORK.....yeah OK if thats what you think you just carry on....they cost you NOTHING therefore its OK? Edited by the silurian (19 Apr 2022 4.42pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 19 Apr 22 4.55pm |
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Even the author of the 'hostile environment' herself ex-PM Theresa May, has come out against this squalid policy. Theresa May has criticised plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda on the grounds of "legality, practicality and efficacy". The former Conservative prime minister told the Commons she also fears that the new asylum policy - that will see refugees who reach the UK through illegal routes deported to Rwanda - could split families up and increase the trafficking of women and children. She ought to know.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Apr 22 5.28pm |
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Rwanda - where cutting edge technology means literally that.
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| Spiderman Horsham 19 Apr 22 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Even the author of the 'hostile environment' herself ex-PM Theresa May, has come out against this squalid policy. Theresa May has criticised plans to send asylum seekers to Rwanda on the grounds of "legality, practicality and efficacy". The former Conservative prime minister told the Commons she also fears that the new asylum policy - that will see refugees who reach the UK through illegal routes deported to Rwanda - could split families up and increase the trafficking of women and children. She ought to know. One of the worst Home Secretary’s ever. She is a Tory, how does she know? Isn’t that your usual mantra?
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