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Tickled pink Cornwall 06 Feb 21 6.12pm
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill The results today have been friendly, and to beat Leeds would be take us above Arsenal and put us in 10th place. Now I've noted that there are some on here that don't see the difference between 13th and 10th as a great deal, but I do, and I hope Roy does too. The manger and players will definitely want to be as high up the table as they can and I feel you do know this deep down, it'll be whether we can operate without Zaha being the main focus of attention in regards to both teams and whether we can actually keep their defence quiet and not able to join in with their attacking excitement lol

Tickled pink

Cornwall 06 Feb 21 6.12pm

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

The results today have been friendly, and to beat Leeds would be take us above Arsenal and put us in 10th place. Now I've noted that there are some on here that don't see the difference between 13th and 10th as a great deal, but I do, and I hope Roy does too.

The manger and players will definitely want to be as high up the table as they can and I feel you do know this deep down, it'll be whether we can operate without Zaha being the main focus of attention in regards to both teams and whether we can actually keep their defence quiet and not able to join in with their attacking excitement lol

Tickled pink Cornwall 06 Feb 21 6.30pm
Originally posted by rollercoaster The only real way to measure the success of a manager is to look at he investment in the team versus table position. I don't think the squad is getting stronger. I think the squad is getting weaker compared to many other clubs in and around mid-table. The team and the staff have done really well to maintain roughly the same league position given the very poor investment in the squad. Roy and the players deserve credit for this. Change the manger in the Summer and crucially invest in new young hungry players that the new manager wants then there's a chance we could stay in the Premier league for a few more years. Surely a better chance of getting the right man in the Summer. All quite right, this is the pure situation that the fans who want our manager gone are unable to grasp.

Tickled pink

Cornwall 06 Feb 21 6.30pm

Originally posted by rollercoaster

The only real way to measure the success of a manager is to look at he investment in the team versus table position. I don't think the squad is getting stronger. I think the squad is getting weaker compared to many other clubs in and around mid-table. The team and the staff have done really well to maintain roughly the same league position given the very poor investment in the squad. Roy and the players deserve credit for this.

Change the manger in the Summer and crucially invest in new young hungry players that the new manager wants then there's a chance we could stay in the Premier league for a few more years. Surely a better chance of getting the right man in the Summer.

All quite right, this is the pure situation that the fans who want our manager gone are unable to grasp.

Eaglecoops CR3 06 Feb 21 9.07pm
Originally posted by Tickled pink All quite right, this is the pure situation that the fans who want our manager gone are unable to grasp. No Tickled, we grasp and understand the situation completely, we just don’t agree with you.

Eaglecoops

CR3 06 Feb 21 9.07pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

All quite right, this is the pure situation that the fans who want our manager gone are unable to grasp.

No Tickled, we grasp and understand the situation completely, we just don’t agree with you.

dynamicdick Dormansland 07 Feb 21 9.50am
Originally posted by Tickled pink The manger and players will definitely want to be as high up the table as they can and I feel you do know this deep down, it'll be whether we can operate without Zaha being the main focus of attention in regards to both teams and whether we can actually keep their defence quiet and not able to join in with their attacking excitement lol Kicking on then, not totally fixated on the bottom 3? If so that’s good news and encouraging. Time will tell. Bring back Brolin

dynamicdick

Dormansland 07 Feb 21 9.50am

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Kicking on then, not totally fixated on the bottom 3? If so that’s good news and encouraging. Time will tell.

Bring back Brolin

PatrickA London 07 Feb 21 9.55am
There used to be a saying that the only two certainties in life were death and taxes. To these it would be safe to add a third; Tickled Pink’s vitriol directed towards anybody who dares to disagree with his unwavering support of Hodgson. This elevated knowledge that he seems to believe he in in possession of means he can dismiss those with opposing views as ‘failing to grasp or understand ‘ the situation. Hodgson can do no wrong is the mantra. Well plenty on here disagree and have provided solid reasons which have nothing to do with personal antipathy towards Hodgson. It is possible to acknowledge that he has done a sound job while at the same time looking for a change at the end of the season.

PatrickA

London 07 Feb 21 9.55am

There used to be a saying that the only two certainties in life were death and taxes.
To these it would be safe to add a third; Tickled Pink’s vitriol directed towards anybody who dares to disagree with his unwavering support of Hodgson.
This elevated knowledge that he seems to believe he in in possession of means he can dismiss those with opposing views as ‘failing to grasp or understand ‘ the situation.
Hodgson can do no wrong is the mantra.
Well plenty on here disagree and have provided solid reasons which have nothing to do with personal antipathy towards Hodgson.
It is possible to acknowledge that he has done a sound job while at the same time looking for a change at the end of the season.

jeeagles 07 Feb 21 10.13am
Originally posted by PatrickA There used to be a saying that the only two certainties in life were death and taxes. To these it would be safe to add a third; Tickled Pink’s vitriol directed towards anybody who dares to disagree with his unwavering support of Hodgson. This elevated knowledge that he seems to believe he in in possession of means he can dismiss those with opposing views as ‘failing to grasp or understand ‘ the situation. Hodgson can do no wrong is the mantra. Well plenty on here disagree and have provided solid reasons which have nothing to do with personal antipathy towards Hodgson. It is possible to acknowledge that he has done a sound job while at the same time looking for a change at the end of the season. The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong. I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal. Big Toe Punts recent bizarre point based on a 25 year old book where he dug out a quote saying Steve Coppell was criticised once so through an illogical series of links, Hodgson should be immune from criticism. Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated. That's not a big achievement. Two wins over struggling sides and its back to living in complete denial of the very poor performance since the 3rd game of the season. Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable.

jeeagles

07 Feb 21 10.13am

Originally posted by PatrickA

The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong.

I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal.

Big Toe Punts recent bizarre point based on a 25 year old book where he dug out a quote saying Steve Coppell was criticised once so through an illogical series of links, Hodgson should be immune from criticism.

Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated. That's not a big achievement. Two wins over struggling sides and its back to living in complete denial of the very poor performance since the 3rd game of the season.

Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Feb 21 10.30am
Originally posted by jeeagles The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong. I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal. Big Toe Punts recent bizarre point based on a 25 year old book where he dug out a quote saying Steve Coppell was criticised once so through an illogical series of links, Hodgson should be immune from criticism. Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated. That's not a big achievement. Two wins over struggling sides and its back to living in complete denial of the very poor performance since the 3rd game of the season. Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable. When Mr Hodgson arrived at the club we were rock-bottom and in the first 7 games of that season we hadn't scored a goal and never gained even a single point.That season we finished in 11th place. This is the 4th season in the PL under his tenureship, during which time our net spend has been some £10 Mill which is a paltry sum.The goal return from his centre-forward has been totally abject and the subject of derision. Mr Hodgson has ensured our survival season-on-season on a limited spend and this achievement should not be understated.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Feb 21 10.30am

Originally posted by jeeagles

The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong.

I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal.

Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated. That's not a big achievement. Two wins over struggling sides and its back to living in complete denial of the very poor performance since the 3rd game of the season.

Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable.

When Mr Hodgson arrived at the club we were rock-bottom and in the first 7 games of that season we hadn't scored a goal and never gained even a single point.That season we finished in 11th place.

This is the 4th season in the PL under his tenureship, during which time our net spend has been some £10 Mill which is a paltry sum.The goal return from his centre-forward has been totally abject and the subject of derision.
Mr Hodgson has ensured our survival season-on-season on a limited spend and this achievement should not be understated.

Gary St.Andrews Kenley 07 Feb 21 10.47am
Originally posted by jeeagles The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong. I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal. Big Toe Punts recent bizarre point based on a 25 year old book where he dug out a quote saying Steve Coppell was criticised once so through an illogical series of links, Hodgson should be immune from criticism. Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated. That's not a big achievement. Two wins over struggling sides and its back to living in complete denial of the very poor performance since the 3rd game of the season. Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable. I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session. Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then... Edited by Gary St.Andrews (07 Feb 2021 10.50am)

Gary St.Andrews

Kenley 07 Feb 21 10.47am

Originally posted by jeeagles

The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong.

I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal.

Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable.

I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then...

Edited by Gary St.Andrews (07 Feb 2021 10.50am)

Midlands Eagle 07 Feb 21 10.47am
Originally posted by PatrickA There used to be a saying that the only two certainties in life were death and taxes. To these it would be safe to add a third; Tickled Pink’s vitriol directed towards anybody who dares to disagree with his unwavering support of Hodgson. I hope that I'm not breaking the moderator secrecy act if I were to say that Tickled Pink has already been banned at least twice for his aggressive attitude towards people that disagreed with him and when he reregistered in his current incarnation he was spotted straight away. It was agreed that we would leave him be to see if the leopard really could change his spots with one particular mod saying that it was highly unlikely and he would eventually revert to type. Looks like he was right

Midlands Eagle

07 Feb 21 10.47am

Originally posted by PatrickA

I hope that I'm not breaking the moderator secrecy act if I were to say that Tickled Pink has already been banned at least twice for his aggressive attitude towards people that disagreed with him and when he reregistered in his current incarnation he was spotted straight away.

It was agreed that we would leave him be to see if the leopard really could change his spots with one particular mod saying that it was highly unlikely and he would eventually revert to type. Looks like he was right

Gary St.Andrews Kenley 07 Feb 21 10.47am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session. Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then...

Gary St.Andrews

Kenley 07 Feb 21 10.47am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then...

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Feb 21 10.49am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I hope that I'm not breaking the moderator secrecy act if I were to say that Tickled Pink has already been banned at least twice for his aggressive attitude towards people that disagreed with him and when he reregistered in his current incarnation he was spotted straight away. It was agreed that we would leave him be to see if the leopard really could change his spots with one particular mod saying that it was highly unlikely and he would eventually revert to type. Looks like he was right Ah, how I miss the mod forum Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 07 Feb 21 10.49am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Ah, how I miss the mod forum

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

jeeagles 07 Feb 21 10.56am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session. Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then... Edited by Gary St.Andrews (07 Feb 2021 10.50am) Fair enough, their might be certain scenarios which could mitigate the situation. Other than Phillips, they don't seem to be that impressive anywhere. Maybe i'll rephase that. We should be expecting to beat Leeds. A good result shouldn't be an excuse for coming on and praising Hodgson as a miricle worker. Trouble is the main apologists for Roy just see no wrong.

jeeagles

07 Feb 21 10.56am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then...

Edited by Gary St.Andrews (07 Feb 2021 10.50am)

Fair enough, their might be certain scenarios which could mitigate the situation. Other than Phillips, they don't seem to be that impressive anywhere. Maybe i'll rephase that.

We should be expecting to beat Leeds. A good result shouldn't be an excuse for coming on and praising Hodgson as a miricle worker.

Trouble is the main apologists for Roy just see no wrong.

nectoneagle necton 07 Feb 21 11.04am
Just a quick response to the reference to Steve Coppell. He was interviewed prior to his first season with us in top division , he was asked what the ambition was for the coming season.His response was that it was a competition and would try to win it. I know that today there is a monetary consideration but that is the problem today. Before playing Man City recently Roy basically said that we would be hammered and would hang on for as long as possible not in my opinion a good message to send out

nectoneagle

necton 07 Feb 21 11.04am

Just a quick response to the reference to Steve Coppell. He was interviewed prior to his first season with us in top division , he was asked what the ambition was for the coming season.His response was that it was a competition and would try to win it.
I know that today there is a monetary consideration but that is the problem today.
Before playing Man City recently Roy basically said that we would be hammered and would hang on for as long as possible not in my opinion a good message to send out

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Feb 21 11.04am
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Ah, how I miss the mod forum Careful CF, they might draft you back, then where you gonna be. Edited by eagleman13 (07 Feb 2021 11.04am) This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Feb 21 11.04am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Ah, how I miss the mod forum

Careful CF, they might draft you back, then where you gonna be.

Edited by eagleman13 (07 Feb 2021 11.04am)

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Gary St.Andrews Kenley 07 Feb 21 11.18am
Originally posted by jeeagles Fair enough, their might be certain scenarios which could mitigate the situation. Other than Phillips, they don't seem to be that impressive anywhere. Maybe i'll rephase that. We should be expecting to beat Leeds. A good result shouldn't be an excuse for coming on and praising Hodgson as a miricle worker. Trouble is the main apologists for Roy just see no wrong. I would have Raphinha in our team all day long over Andros and Ayew, he is class...

Gary St.Andrews

Kenley 07 Feb 21 11.18am

Originally posted by jeeagles

Fair enough, their might be certain scenarios which could mitigate the situation. Other than Phillips, they don't seem to be that impressive anywhere. Maybe i'll rephase that.

We should be expecting to beat Leeds. A good result shouldn't be an excuse for coming on and praising Hodgson as a miricle worker.

Trouble is the main apologists for Roy just see no wrong.

I would have Raphinha in our team all day long over Andros and Ayew, he is class...

cpfccccc Bromley 07 Feb 21 11.23am
Jeeagles I would suggest that Hodgson supporters would say the opposite and that people against Hodgson will say he doesn’t do anything right and there will definitely be mad rants on here every time we lose, Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated and also Stoke, West Brom Watford and Bournemouth Stoke and Fulham were clubs that Palace want to be by often being in the top 10. Watford and Bournemouth and Swansea, teams that people moan about as they are seen to be doing better than us or playing better football It’s tough being and more importantly staying in the premiership so I think Roy is doing a good job especially with player investment being less than pretty much everyone else whilst also appreciating that he has his stubborn faults

cpfccccc

Bromley 07 Feb 21 11.23am

Jeeagles

I would suggest that Hodgson supporters would say the opposite and that people against Hodgson will say he doesn’t do anything right and there will definitely be mad rants on here every time we lose,

Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated and also Stoke, West Brom Watford and Bournemouth

Stoke and Fulham were clubs that Palace want to be by often being in the top 10. Watford and Bournemouth and Swansea, teams that people moan about as they are seen to be doing better than us or playing better football

It’s tough being and more importantly staying in the premiership so I think Roy is doing a good job especially with player investment being less than pretty much everyone else whilst also appreciating that he has his stubborn faults

PZ Eagle Penzance 07 Feb 21 11.24am
The assumptions by some that we have only beaten the struggling teams is wrong. We have gained more points from teams above us in the table than those below. Just saying. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

PZ Eagle

Penzance 07 Feb 21 11.24am

The assumptions by some that we have only beaten the struggling teams is wrong. We have gained more points from teams above us in the table than those below. Just saying.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

Painter Croydon 07 Feb 21 11.31am
Originally posted by jeeagles The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong. I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal. Big Toe Punts recent bizarre point based on a 25 year old book where he dug out a quote saying Steve Coppell was criticised once so through an illogical series of links, Hodgson should be immune from criticism. Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated. That's not a big achievement. Two wins over struggling sides and its back to living in complete denial of the very poor performance since the 3rd game of the season. Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable. You and Tickled Pink should get your own room. Both have a one eyed view on Hodgson. You cant deny his achievement in keeping us up in the Premier on a shoestring budget with ageing players, also he doesnt get everything right and is too loyal to certain players. Whoever the manager is for any team, they have to rely on their players performing. Human error leads to goals being conceeded, its not the players that get sacked its the manager, so its easy to see why some a cautious.

Painter

Croydon 07 Feb 21 11.31am

Originally posted by jeeagles

The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong.

I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal.

Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable.

You and Tickled Pink should get your own room. Both have a one eyed view on Hodgson.
You cant deny his achievement in keeping us up in the Premier on a shoestring budget with ageing players, also he doesnt get everything right and is too loyal to certain players.
Whoever the manager is for any team, they have to rely on their players performing. Human error leads to goals being conceeded, its not the players that get sacked its the manager, so its easy to see why some a cautious.

dynamicdick Dormansland 07 Feb 21 11.39am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session. Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then... Edited by Gary St.Andrews (07 Feb 2021 10.50am) I agree with you on this Gary re the timing of his departure but anc it’s a big one if this is also shared by the board have they got a planning processor fir his successor underway? Bring back Brolin

dynamicdick

Dormansland 07 Feb 21 11.39am

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

I’m not sure we do have a better team than Leeds or the crazy notion that ONLY a win will do against Leeds tomorrow night. I think you are just paving your way for another Roy bashing session.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Roy should retire at the end of this season, but not before then...

Edited by Gary St.Andrews (07 Feb 2021 10.50am)

I agree with you on this Gary re the timing of his departure but anc it’s a big one if this is also shared by the board have they got a planning processor fir his successor underway?

Bring back Brolin

silvertop Portishead 07 Feb 21 11.40am
Originally posted by jeeagles The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong. I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal. Big Toe Punts recent bizarre point based on a 25 year old book where he dug out a quote saying Steve Coppell was criticised once so through an illogical series of links, Hodgson should be immune from criticism. Roy has kept us up, when the likes of Huddersfield, Norwich, Cardiff, Swansea, Fulham have been relegated. That's not a big achievement. Two wins over struggling sides and its back to living in complete denial of the very poor performance since the 3rd game of the season. Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable. No one is immune from criticism including you. That last line of yours is tosh as the league table makes clear. Every year at least one new team tears up the league. They have bigger scalps than ours and will be very difficult to beat especially with 6 first team players injured or 50/50. That said win and we're top half.

silvertop

Portishead 07 Feb 21 11.40am

Originally posted by jeeagles

The telling point of his dillusion is that they do believe Hodgson can do know wrong.

I'm quite happy to give him credit for the rare occasion he gets something right, but they'll come on raving about a David vs Goliath draw against 10th place Arsenal.

Leeds are a newly promoted side. We have a better squad than them. We should expect anything but a win as unacceptable.

No one is immune from criticism including you. That last line of yours is tosh as the league table makes clear. Every year at least one new team tears up the league. They have bigger scalps than ours and will be very difficult to beat especially with 6 first team players injured or 50/50.

That said win and we're top half.

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