Confused.endless

The "basic democratic principle" in the British system is vested in Parliament and NOT in any referendum. How many times must this be pointed out before you understand it?

The 2016 referendum campaign is indeed yesterday's battle. Time has moved on and with it the situation we are in has evolved.

Those who constantly refer back to the 2016 result are wasting their time. They are fighting yesterday's battle. It's quite ironic that they label some of those who don't agree with them as "remoaners" when all the moaning is actually coming from them.

If you truly believe that leaving the EU without a deal is the best option then make the arguments about why that is the case. Moaning that the 2016 referendum result must be implemented won't win that argument.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (14 Oct 2019 12.47pm)

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Sure and subsequently our Parliament has looked at a deal agreed between the EU and the government and rejected it. Not just by those who voted to remain, but also by many who voted to leave. We have gone past the campaigning stages and are now into the implementation stage and it hasn't yet been possible.

No-one won anything from the divisions and delays that the 2016 referendum has caused. Not even you. All your "winning" mentality has done is produce anger and frustration. We are still in and how, when or indeed if, we actually leave remain unanswered questions. That referendum ought never have been held. Such decisions should always be taken in Parliament and if they had decided it was best for us to withdraw from the EU they could then have entered a period of negotiation with them over how to do it, before triggering the formal application and thus avoided producing this unnecessary stress.

We don't decide the country's future like a cricket match where one more run can mean success or failure. We need to be much more thoughtful and professional than that.

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Seen a lot of magic? We are anything but in control. If the process is questioned the show falls apart. So...another similarity.

Queen outlines government's Brexit plan during state opening

Priceless.....

We will have a GE in the coming months when we will all have the chance to express our opinions.

If we decide to vote in a majority government then things will move forward, unless they lose their majority again through stupidity.

If we vote in a hung Parliament then lots of compromises are going to be needed.

The bottom line is though that is our choice.

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You are anti Johnson, anti Brexit.

There is no 'blame' in facts.

The only problem with Brexit is those who oppose it or wish to use it for political gain.

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IMO there will not be a deal done by the 31st Oct unless Johnson completely caves into EU demands (whatever they maybe). If he does that he will commit political hari kari and with it zero chance of winning a GE.
The EU do no want us to leave on anything other than a very bad deal as ‘punishment’ for daring to leave ‘the club’ or we stay in and the only way that can be done is delay until their friends in high places led by Bercow with Hammond, Grieve et al conniving behind try and work their magic with a 2nd referendum, hoping that the continuous Project Fear message will work to change the voting minds of many Leave voters. From the many people I have spoken who did vote Leave their stance has now hardened because of the persistent, planned and orchestrated blocking of Brexit.

There MUST not be a 2nd referendum or democracy will be dead and people will believe (and rightly so) that there vote means nothing.

Of course the plotters believe that they have scuppered our negotiating position which, of course strengthens further the EU’s position and further humiliating Boris’s position and with it the UK by the Benn bill forcing him to ask for a further extension.
This of course will be given leaving continuing uncertainty with businesses of all sizes left to potential decline.

As Mrs May repeatedly said that a No deal is better than a bad deal. Boris please find a way to circumvent the Benn deal and enabling you to negotiate in a way that is best for this Country and make us Great again - if we are being held over a barrel say bye bye and don’t be afraid.

Bring back Brolin

You never change do you?

It isn't guesswork at all. It's informed predictions which forecast a range of possibilities. As these all point in the same direction and suggest outcomes that vary from the bad to the disastrous it is only a fool who doesn't heed them.

Your adage is "it'll be all right on the night".

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