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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 19 7.10pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

You know excactly what I'm talking about, and it prooved your point mute that's why you want on the defensive. Experts/ experience lol
Why would anyone keep listening to the same people who predict things wrong. Do the same thing get the same results!

Edited by dannyboy1978 (15 Oct 2019 1.40pm)

Simply because they don't "always predict things wrong". Most of the time they don't predict anything, they just rely on the forecasts made by experts and then make political judgements based upon them. Everyone in politics does it and I am pretty sure so would you if you held that responsibility. Nothing ever goes precisely to plan though does it? You just try to do your best and be flexible enough to react when needed.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 19 7.13pm

Originally posted by cryrst


If you were walking the mutt I hope he dragged you into the pub kicking and screaming.
Then the smell and aromas of your favourite ale kept you there for a couple.
Dont let me down wissy.
I dont like your political arguments but I like the fact you like a yeast.

Sorry to disappoint. I was playing bowls. The dog had to wait. I got back with him an hour ago. Now I am cooking. No beer today.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 19 7.21pm

Originally posted by becky

Unless you are an elected Member of Parliament, where you will have a vote on how/if we exit the EU,I would be interested to hear how you expect to achieve this.
Unless of course you are part of a Guy Fawkes Mk II conspiracy?

Only via encouragement and support. As a member of "More United" hopefully some of that does reach the more progressive MPs. And of course making contributions in places like this, supporting those who talk common sense and trying to change the minds of those who don't.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Oct 19 7.44pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I most certainly don't support Labour, especially under Corbyn. My priority, like that of Parliament, is to stop a "no deal" Brexit. After that it will be up to the MPs to decide when to hold a GE and whether they want to consult the people again.

I can begin to see a good argument being made to cancel Brexit altogether which might gain sufficient support in the country as a whole to actually succeed. The SNP threatening to leave the UK if we Brexit might well change a few minds.

I actually spend very little time on here. I have been out since 11.30 and just got home, which is not unusual. I just type quickly.

I have supported Palace since 1952 and followed them from near and far ever since. As a kid I cycled to the ground and left my bike on the Holmesdale Rd. Was there when we lost to Real Madrid 3-4, when we first gained promotion to the 1st Div and for our first game in it. Hundreds of games over the years. I have watched them in the middle of the night over the net whilst on the other side of the world. So I am not just a fan. I am a fanatic. But I am also politically active!

You don't say.

Any no deal Brexit will be temporary as you know perfectly well.
The whole no deal outrage act is just another tactic by Remainers like you to stop Brexit.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 19 8.19pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't say.

Any no deal Brexit will be temporary as you know perfectly well.
The whole no deal outrage act is just another tactic by Remainers like you to stop Brexit.

"It will just be temporary" is the excuse of the ultra Brexiteer.

It won't be just temporary! It will establish the framework for the whole future relationship. What happens next is that the detailed work for every sector then gets done within that framework. Get the framework wrong and there won't be an easy way to amend it, or any wish to if the current mob remain in government.

 


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johnno42000 Flag 15 Oct 19 8.21pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

For example?

Anyone who spends an awful lot of time on the site posting pro or anti comments about a particular subject.

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Oct 19 8.56pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

"It will just be temporary" is the excuse of the ultra Brexiteer.

It won't be just temporary! It will establish the framework for the whole future relationship. What happens next is that the detailed work for every sector then gets done within that framework. Get the framework wrong and there won't be an easy way to amend it, or any wish to if the current mob remain in government.


There is a mutual benefit to a deal so it will happen sooner rather than later.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Oct 19 8.58pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

Anyone who spends an awful lot of time on the site posting pro or anti comments about a particular subject.

So anyone who posts in the politics section.

I see.

 

johnno42000 Flag 15 Oct 19 9.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So anyone who posts in the politics section.

I see.

If they post a lot. then yes, but no one in particular just that it could apply to anyone who posts a lot.

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Oct 19 9.18pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

If they post a lot. then yes, but no one in particular just that it could apply to anyone who posts a lot.

How much is a lot?

 

Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 15 Oct 19 9.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How much is a lot?

8 inches

 


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johnno42000 Flag 15 Oct 19 9.33pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How much is a lot?

I don't know. It was you that accused Wisbech. Perhaps you could be the Supreme Court judge and decide?

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Oct 19 9.41pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

I don't know. It was you that accused Wisbech. Perhaps you could be the Supreme Court judge and decide?

So your original statement was based on nothing?

I see.

Wisbech is a blatant political activist. He is just being a little secretive about who for. His twisty turny arguments in favour of Remain are excruciating.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 19 10.39pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


There is a mutual benefit to a deal so it will happen sooner rather than later.

You would hope so but the real question is whether anything Johnson produces is acceptable to the current Parliament. The SNP and the LibDems will vote against any deal. The Tories will probably all vote for, including I expect the ERG, and so will at least 15 Labour MPs. The rest of Labour will probably vote against. The DUP? Abstain maybe if they still think "no deal" remains possible? It will be very tight.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Oct 19 11.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So your original statement was based on nothing?

I see.

Wisbech is a blatant political activist. He is just being a little secretive about who for. His twisty turny arguments in favour of Remain are excruciating.

Excuse me for butting in!

I am not in the least secretive. It really ought to be obvious. I support the will of Parliament and not just one section of it, whatever their political flavour.

You would be hard put to find any recent comments from me supporting "remain", although that is what I voted for in 2016. I continue to believe that holding a referendum was a big mistake, that the campaign in favour of leaving was both bogus and compromised by outside interference, so that us deciding to leave was not just a bad decision but one that ought to have been declared invalid. Nevertheless, my approach is that I want Parliament to do it's job and decide how to handle this. That has been my consistent position. When I explain things they are simply explanations of particular positions and not me advocating them. Any advocating I do is directed at those who actually can change things and they aren't here. Not yet anyway. If another referendum is called, which I hope it won't but can see why it might, then my position would change and, after the options become available and clear, I might well advocate in favour of one of them. I would probably though be too busy knocking doors and delivering information to people actually likely to listen.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 16 Oct 19 12.00am

How, based on the predicted response from MPs that has been reasonably outlined above, can we ever have agreement to a Brexit deal? Even though constituents voted leave we have MPs voting against those wishes, we have a European Parliament that is desperate not to lose one of their biggest contributors and who contrive to prevent a deal occurring. We have major political parties only interested in furthering their own political agendas as opposed to ensuring that the wishes of a majority are fulfilled. In short our political system is in chaos and in my opinion our system is on the brink of collapse. It certainly carries no confidence from the public in it’s ability to make decisions.

Forget having a vote of no confidence in the Conservative party, I think the people should have a vote of no confidence in our political system. There has to be a better way than this.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Oct 19 12.45am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Excuse me for butting in!

I am not in the least secretive. It really ought to be obvious. I support the will of Parliament and not just one section of it, whatever their political flavour.

You would be hard put to find any recent comments from me supporting "remain", although that is what I voted for in 2016. I continue to believe that holding a referendum was a big mistake, that the campaign in favour of leaving was both bogus and compromised by outside interference, so that us deciding to leave was not just a bad decision but one that ought to have been declared invalid. Nevertheless, my approach is that I want Parliament to do it's job and decide how to handle this. That has been my consistent position. When I explain things they are simply explanations of particular positions and not me advocating them. Any advocating I do is directed at those who actually can change things and they aren't here. Not yet anyway. If another referendum is called, which I hope it won't but can see why it might, then my position would change and, after the options become available and clear, I might well advocate in favour of one of them. I would probably though be too busy knocking doors and delivering information to people actually likely to listen.

With this attitude of Parliament knowing best for everyone what’s the point of having an opinion or advocating anything? Why don’t you just accept whatever decision the come to seeing how they are apparently omnipotent?

 

johnno42000 Flag 16 Oct 19 12.48am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So your original statement was based on nothing?

I see.

Wisbech is a blatant political activist. He is just being a little secretive about who for. His twisty turny arguments in favour of Remain are excruciating.

No, it was based on an accusation by you that could easily apply to any poster that posts a lot...like you.

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

dannyboy1978 Flag 16 Oct 19 3.05am

Bias BBC again. Add up the leave votes and leave wins!

BBC News - Have UK voters changed their minds on Brexit?
[Link]
It's literally the other way around for leave! The BBC are so corrupt
[Link]

Edited by dannyboy1978 (16 Oct 2019 3.07am)

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 16 Oct 19 6.53am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not in the least secretive. It really ought to be obvious. I support the will of Parliament and not just one section of it, whatever their political flavour.

Including the war in Iraq which was the will of Parliament

 

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