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French eagle Flag 09 Feb 21 10.16am

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

I don't care who we get, I just want it to be over with Roy.

Even Frank De Boer ?

 

MR100% Flag 09 Feb 21 10.20am

Lets be honest Cahill looks like this will be his last season ,hasn't been anything like as effective as last year.
Tomkins and Dann our best pairing
Luka just can't pass a ball at the moment

Upfront never the same combination ,on the left handside we played two defenders who can't defend last night .I feel for Mitchell he is young but if someone runs at him at pace he struggles

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 21 10.30am

Originally posted by MR100%

Lets be honest Cahill looks like this will be his last season ,hasn't been anything like as effective as last year.
Tomkins and Dann our best pairing
Luka just can't pass a ball at the moment

Upfront never the same combination ,on the left handside we played two defenders who can't defend last night .I feel for Mitchell he is young but if someone runs at him at pace he struggles

Dann is another player way past his best with the advancement of age.I am not comfortable with him in central defence but there are problems all over the pitch.The wheels are coming off.

 

palace chick Flag South Croydon 09 Feb 21 10.31am

Originally posted by MR100%

Lets be honest Cahill looks like this will be his last season ,hasn't been anything like as effective as last year.
Tomkins and Dann our best pairing
Luka just can't pass a ball at the moment

Upfront never the same combination ,on the left handside we played two defenders who can't defend last night .I feel for Mitchell he is young but if someone runs at him at pace he struggles

It doesn’t help that we have changed our midfield to accommodate Eze and of course Tomkins is missed big time. Dann and Cahill are not a good partnership and both play better with Tomkins alongside either one. And dare I say Sakho would be similar to Tomkins with either Dann or Cahill alongside? Whatever combination would suffer in truth with just the two in the middle of midfield without a third defensive midfielder? Hodgson could help this by playing the defensive 3 in the middle of midfield again. However he has decided to not protect the ageing defence by playing an ageing slow midfielder with a younger slow midfielder who both can’t get up and down the field. Recipe for disaster as we have constantly seen

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Feb 21 10.38am

Originally posted by Willo


Dann is another player way past his best with the advancement of age.I am not comfortable with him in central defence but there are problems all over the pitch.The wheels are coming off.

But Mr Hodgson is happy with our squad as he said so during the transfer window


 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 09 Feb 21 10.43am

Originally posted by NEILLO

No you weren't just saying that. You were blaming Hodgson for the club's performance in the last 8 transfer windows.

For all his faults, where Palace find themselves now ,with a squad of aging and out of contract players, is not down to Hodgson.

Parish has painted himself into a corner with the way the club is being run. Ultimately he carries the can.

Of course I’m blaming Hodgson. He’s the manager for god sake, he should be the main person at the club, the driver of the club’s direction, the main influence over how to get the team in the best possible shape. I have more respect for managers who walk because the club won’t back them, because I’m not talking about hundreds of millions I’m talking about consistently replacing players when they are past it with no more than two players per window.

If Roy cannot recognise the current situation was occurring or just ignores it because he doesn’t feel it’s part of his job then more the fool him because his legacy is going to end up being a failing team.

If Parish has ignored requests for players and repeated warnings that this situation was rapidly worsening then I would apologise to Roy and say more the fool Parish and we will all have to accept the club is truly screwed and relegation will shortly be nailed on.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 21 10.48am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

But Mr Hodgson is happy with our squad as he said so during the transfer window

Very diplomatic.
I think there would have been eyebrows raised if he was critical of his squad.

Certainly outside of HOL, I have bored some chaps for the tautology apropos "Dad's Army" and the general dissatisfaction with the squad in general due to the passage of time with one bellowing out that I was akin to a "Gramophone record stuck in a groove" but my fears about our aged squad are now being realised.

 

EddieMac Flag 09 Feb 21 10.52am

Roy has many flaws but over the balance of his tenure he has kept us in the league with his tactics. We now have the biggest injury list in the division and if you all remember just after Xmas last year we had a worse injury crisis and this has been the case over the last few years but we always managed to pick up enough points.

Our defence last night basically picked itself so I'm not sure what else he could have done with the back 4. As far as I am concerned not 1 of that back 4 is good enough to be playing regulary.

We had 3 fit centre midfield players last night and I dont think it would have mattered which 2 he started.

I like most am bored with the football and Eze is the only player keeping me sane at the moment but Roy will not be leaving before the end of the season and a lot of you will need to brace yourselves because there is every chance he will still be here next season.

I would like him to go at the end of the year but only if it is for someone better. Our squad is in dire straits and if the wrong person comes in with no financial backing then we will be relegated.

 

French eagle Flag 09 Feb 21 11.19am

Originally posted by EddieMac

Roy has many flaws but over the balance of his tenure he has kept us in the league with his tactics. We now have the biggest injury list in the division and if you all remember just after Xmas last year we had a worse injury crisis and this has been the case over the last few years but we always managed to pick up enough points.

Our defence last night basically picked itself so I'm not sure what else he could have done with the back 4. As far as I am concerned not 1 of that back 4 is good enough to be playing regulary.

We had 3 fit centre midfield players last night and I dont think it would have mattered which 2 he started.

I like most am bored with the football and Eze is the only player keeping me sane at the moment but Roy will not be leaving before the end of the season and a lot of you will need to brace yourselves because there is every chance he will still be here next season.

I would like him to go at the end of the year but only if it is for someone better. Our squad is in dire straits and if the wrong person comes in with no financial backing then we will be relegated.


Good post. Points well made

 

thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 09 Feb 21 11.22am

When we played Newcastle we had a 10-12 minutes period really good (scored both goals), against Leeds we had a five-six minute period playing well.
Rest of the game - absolute rubbish. Can not understand that the players accept it game after game - where is their pride? We are becoming the laughing stock of PL even though we probably stay up.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 21 11.27am

Originally posted by thai-eagle

When we played Newcastle we had a 10-12 minutes period really good (scored both goals), against Leeds we had a five-six minute period playing well.
Rest of the game - absolute rubbish. Can not understand that the players accept it game after game - where is their pride? We are becoming the laughing stock of PL even though we probably stay up.

It is the players who serve up utter dross as many are past their best.Too old,too slow,not good enough any more.

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Feb 21 11.27am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Of course I’m blaming Hodgson. He’s the manager for god sake, he should be the main person at the club, the driver of the club’s direction, the main influence over how to get the team in the best possible shape. I have more respect for managers who walk because the club won’t back them, because I’m not talking about hundreds of millions I’m talking about consistently replacing players when they are past it with no more than two players per window.

If Roy cannot recognise the current situation was occurring or just ignores it because he doesn’t feel it’s part of his job then more the fool him because his legacy is going to end up being a failing team.

If Parish has ignored requests for players and repeated warnings that this situation was rapidly worsening then I would apologise to Roy and say more the fool Parish and we will all have to accept the club is truly screwed and relegation will shortly be nailed on.

Did you not take in the quote I posted earlier ?

Hodgson's role is about getting the best out of the players at his disposal. Some on here think he is, some don't.

Anybody on a 12 month contract is hardly in a position to be the main driver for the direction of the club - which is Parish's responsibility in any case.

I certainly agree that a gradual rebuild would have been the way to go, but as I have repeatedly said before, the club has been run through a short term lens when it comes to the first team squad. Now it's becoming a far bigger problem than it should have been.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 21 11.29am

Originally posted by NEILLO

Did you not take in the quote I posted earlier ?

Hodgson's role is about getting the best out of the players at his disposal. Some on here think he is, some don't.

Anybody on a 12 month contract is hardly in a position to be the main driver for the direction of the club - which is Parish's responsibility in any case.

I certainly agree that a gradual rebuild would have been the way to go, but as I have repeatedly said before, the club has been run through a short term lens when it comes to the first team squad. Now it's becoming a far bigger problem than it should have been.

I garland these comments with praise.

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 09 Feb 21 11.47am

Parish cannot let Roy wait until July before he makes his decision, it has to be made now, and if its a no he should go with immediate effect, how can players decide on signing a new contract without knowing, we are not going to get relegated this season, so we can replace Roy, and start building for next season

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 21 11.51am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Parish cannot let Roy wait until July before he makes his decision, it has to be made now, and if its a no he should go with immediate effect, how can players decide on signing a new contract without knowing, we are not going to get relegated this season, so we can replace Roy, and start building for next season

All I will assert is that one suspects that conversations with various parties have been taking place behind the scenes.

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 09 Feb 21 1.34pm

Originally posted by Willo

All I will assert is that one suspects that conversations with various parties have been taking place behind the scenes.


I would go along with that. I do think that for the sake of moral Hodgson , is mostly positive when talking about this squad, but a man of his experience knows that he has got as much as is possible
out of them . He may because of his age , not consider going else where , but the club know ,and he must that it is time to bite the bullet, as to gearing up for the future.
None of this really reflects poorly on Hodgson, in the circumstances he has kept us in the big league , and that’s an achievement in my opinion. But change is needed if the club is to gain not only a higher position in the league, but a higher regard from all those , fans TV pundits, pro,s, that look on.


 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 09 Feb 21 1.51pm

Originally posted by Willo

All I will assert is that one suspects that conversations with various parties have been taking place behind the scenes.

You would like to think so, so if that is the case has the new manager signed pre contract, and if so is involved with the contract expiry situation.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 21 1.53pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

You would like to think so, so if that is the case has the new manager signed pre contract, and if so is involved with the contract expiry situation.

I am not able to provide an answer.

 

AERO Flag 09 Feb 21 2.00pm

One thing for certain, If the crowds were allowed to attend games over the last few months, Roy would have been gone by now .

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Feb 21 2.05pm

Originally posted by AERO

One thing for certain, If the crowds were allowed to attend games over the last few months, Roy would have been gone by now .

To be honest I have not heard a shred of evidence to suggest that any adverse crowd reaction would have had any bearing on the position of the manager.

 

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