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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 May 22 11.20am

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Evidence that Man made it all up?
You may be on to something there, Wisbech.

No, statistical evidence going back to the start of the industrial revolution which provides firm ground for the assertion that the current rising trend is man made and will continue, unless we intervene to mitigate it.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 May 22 11.26am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Buying a property in Iceland would probably make your grand-children multi-millionaires.

But the sound of the tills would probably put them off.

On a more serious note I think many people are probably underestimating...thanks to media messaging.....the high probability that technology will emerge....some of which is already here that can work against climate change. It is not a static situation and lots of R&D is already invested.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2022 1.24pm)

I don't doubt that technology will help. GM will allow us to produce drought and heat resistant crops, but, of course, some will resist them too.

There isn't a simple, one step, solution. We won't stop climate change, but we can reduce it and mitigate its impact, by employing all the skills we have.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 May 22 11.39am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sleepy joe was running his mouth off again, this time over Taiwan. As I predicted, despite what his sleepy versions on here think, there is now massive concern over China.....not surprising.

Common sense tells....well those with common sense just how dangerous things are now.

WH have once again had to clarify his comments by saying he meant military support not boots on the ground over a conflict.

Can you imagine the Democratic media if this had been Trump?

Imagine if Putin had said that he was going to militarily respond to western arms, or Finland, or Turkey and the Russian foreign ministry or Lavrov had to constantly correct the record.

The press would be saying Moscow is in chaos or a coup.

Yet Biden gets a pass because the truth is the whole administration is incompetent and most of the media are lackeys......the only real hope is in the Pentagon.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2022 11.36pm)

Your cynicism ought not be a surprise, but I suspect this is a very deliberate ploy to keep the Chinese guessing. It's not the first time a US President has said something, only for the State Department to say something else.

Whilst I have no more certainty than anyone else, I don't believe the Chinese will use military force to take Taiwan. I am though even firmer in my belief that the USA would not get directly involved if they did. Condemnation, token sanctions of some kind, but nothing else. Taiwan isn't Europe. It's surrounded by sea and not bordered by Nato countries.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 24 May 22 11.47am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Your cynicism ought not be a surprise, but I suspect this is a very deliberate ploy to keep the Chinese guessing. It's not the first time a US President has said something, only for the State Department to say something else.

Whilst I have no more certainty than anyone else, I don't believe the Chinese will use military force to take Taiwan. I am though even firmer in my belief that the USA would not get directly involved if they did. Condemnation, token sanctions of some kind, but nothing else. Taiwan isn't Europe. It's surrounded by sea and not bordered by Nato countries.

Correct. A completely different situation. The West would be incredibly unlikely to get involved in anything other than a token way.

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 24 May 22 12.32pm

Originally posted by OldFella

I've come to the carefully considered opinion that Wisbech Eagle is a parody account. It is the only plausible explanation.

I went through that phase too, I thought, this guy has nailed everything there is to parody about a smug, holier than thou person who believes his opinions are facts.

Then I changed my signature when I realised it's not

Edited by HKOwen (24 May 2022 12.32pm)

Edited by HKOwen (24 May 2022 12.34pm)

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 22 12.38pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Your cynicism ought not be a surprise, but I suspect this is a very deliberate ploy to keep the Chinese guessing. It's not the first time a US President has said something, only for the State Department to say something else.

Whilst I have no more certainty than anyone else, I don't believe the Chinese will use military force to take Taiwan. I am though even firmer in my belief that the USA would not get directly involved if they did. Condemnation, token sanctions of some kind, but nothing else. Taiwan isn't Europe. It's surrounded by sea and not bordered by Nato countries.

The US isn't Europe either.

Apparently, according to you race doesn't matter, so the European racial connection to Europe shouldn't matter should it?...that's guys like me who have some honesty.....No your lot are all about
your 'white supremacists' lies. Yet when push comes to shove...your just use different words to excuse bias in racial connection.

Also, what you seem to forget are the massive investments the US have in Taiwan and the security aspects involved with Japan and the region generally.

However, I don't deny that 'boots on the ground' would be unlikely in a Taiwanese war.....then again, actually saying that is stupid because it allows your opponent more certainty in calculation. Biden actually making a statement of military support means the White House have to clarify and that's about as dim as it gets.

Trump's unpredictability was a significant asset in a world that's increasingly polarised and resource driven....Having Biden in there makes the Taiwanese war a lot more likely, just as it manifested the Ukrainian.

China know that this is their best chance....the US is highly divided and has a weak low IQ untalented administration that can't run anything competently let alone coordinate a war.....they can only throw money....80 percent of all the US dollars in circulation were printed in the last two years. Trump was bad on that front but Biden has been worse. The US economy is hardly in a place to, rather selectively, behave as the world's policeman when its pockets are empty and its people are suffering terrible inflation......pursuing a ridiculous self harming cold war and throwing money at the Ukraine while it can't even run its own baby feed supply.

As I originally stated having Biden in the White House significantly increased the likelihood of these wars....a denial of that is making excuses for your own lack of clarity....in you, well your hatred of Trump clouded your judgement.

Vote Democrat and get your never ending wars.

This is the guy you preferred and the world is suffering because of it and all you and your brethren have are lame contentions and doubtful excuses.


Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2022 3.07pm)

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 24 May 22 1.54pm

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Evidence that Man made it all up?
You may be on to something there, Wisbech.

The King of the Lizards is back I see

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

BlueJay Flag UK 24 May 22 5.56pm

Wrong thread really, sorry! (Gas price related, centreing in on the big drop in wholesale prices here but no real capacity to storage it anymore, so we sell cheaply abroad now, and import at sky high prices when we actually need it)


Edited by BlueJay (24 May 2022 6.27pm)

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Teddy Eagle Flag 24 May 22 10.41pm

Still, at least he's not Trump.

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 25 May 22 6.16am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Still, at least he's not Trump.

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The only thing not factual in that are their opinions which some posters always use to counter someones ability to show the facts. Wonder their take on the facts of this article.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 25 May 22 8.29am

Another mass shooting at Primary School in Texas. 21 dead, mainly 7-10 year old kids. 18 yo killer died at scene, having first killed his own grandmother.
Ffs young kids how f***ed up is America ? Whatever party is in power, they cannot keep bowing to the gun lobby.
Those poor kids and their families. Also we should not forget the other kids who witnessed it

RIP

 

W12 25 May 22 8.50am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Another mass shooting at Primary School in Texas. 21 dead, mainly 7-10 year old kids. 18 yo killer died at scene, having first killed his own grandmother.
Ffs young kids how f***ed up is America ? Whatever party is in power, they cannot keep bowing to the gun lobby.
Those poor kids and their families. Also we should not forget the other kids who witnessed it

RIP

One day, people in this country will realise why gun rights were written into the US constitution and it's not much to do with protecting your property. The most powerful people in the world simply love guns and for good reason.

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 May 22 9.10am

Originally posted by W12



One day, people in this country will realise why gun rights were written into the US constitution
and it's not much to do with protecting your property. The most powerful people in the world simply love guns and for good reason.

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The US did not have a standing army and after the war of independence were flat broke. The possibility of the English trying again to take back the colonies probably by invading from Canada was uppermost in their minds.

As the army had been mostly disbanded the cheapest way to protect the country from invaders and native American tribes was to form a militia (part time unpaid soldiers under military leadership).

That was the original reason for the right to bear arms. Since then it is true that the original reason has been twisted out of all sense of proportion to mean anyone can carry a gun.

 


One more point

Stirlingsays Flag 25 May 22 9.12am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Another mass shooting at Primary School in Texas. 21 dead, mainly 7-10 year old kids. 18 yo killer died at scene, having first killed his own grandmother.
Ffs young kids how f***ed up is America ? Whatever party is in power, they cannot keep bowing to the gun lobby.
Those poor kids and their families. Also we should not forget the other kids who witnessed it

RIP


What are they going to do then? Take their guns off of them?

Do you seriously think that republicans are going to vote for the state to take their arms?

The level of distrust and polarisation in the states is way way past this point. You have more chance of a dead Dodo becoming president.

Probably better to have a couple of armed teachers in the school. Why this isn't standard practice after previous events is surprising.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 May 2022 9.14am)

 


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W12 25 May 22 9.17am

Originally posted by Badger11

The US did not have a standing army and after the war of independence were flat broke. The possibility of the English trying again to take back the colonies probably by invading from Canada was uppermost in their minds.

As the army had been mostly disbanded the cheapest way to protect the country from invaders and native American tribes was to form a militia (part time unpaid soldiers under military leadership).

That was the original reason for the right to bear arms. Since then it is true that the original reason has been twisted out of all sense of proportion to mean anyone can carry a gun.

Why shouldn't any law abiding citizen have the right to own a gun?

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 May 22 9.18am

Originally posted by W12

Why shouldn't any law abiding citizen have the right to own a gun?

Seriously!

 


One more point

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 May 22 9.20am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


What are they going to do then? Take their guns off of them?

Do you seriously think that republicans are going to vote for the state to take their arms?

The level of distrust and polarisation in the states is way way past this point. You have more chance of a dead Dodo becoming president.

Probably better to have a couple of armed teachers in the school. Why this isn't standard practice after previous events is surprising.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 May 2022 9.14am)

Agree with logic but the whole thing really is so bemusing.

I still stand aghast at the fact that just about anyone can go in to what is virtually their, I don't know, Sainsburys/Argos and just buy a f**king assault rifle. Isn't Walmart still the biggest gun retailer?

You have to ask at what stage is somebody going to go 'Hang on a jif, maybe the answer to gun violence isn't more guns'??

It's so unbelievably tragic, certainly beyond my articulation, for something like this to happen.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 25 May 22 9.24am

Originally posted by W12

Why shouldn't any law abiding citizen have the right to own a gun?

Why would anybody need a gun? Oh yes, because other people have guns. Well let's just all have guns and that will sort the law abiding from the non-law abiding, you know, once we've cleaned up all the dead bodies.

Also, out of interest, people aren't categorically either 'law abiding' or 'non-law abiding'. The world doesn't work like that. Even if it did how would you determine that?

Nonsense.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 25 May 22 9.27am

Originally posted by W12

Why shouldn't any law abiding citizen have the right to own a gun?

How about a tank or missle launcher or a nuclear weapon or anthrax?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 25 May 22 9.28am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Agree with logic but the whole thing really is so bemusing.

I still stand aghast at the fact that just about anyone can go in to what is virtually their, I don't know, Sainsburys/Argos and just buy a f**king assault rifle. Isn't Walmart still the biggest gun retailer?

You have to ask at what stage is somebody going to go 'Hang on a jif, maybe the answer to gun violence isn't more guns'??

It's so unbelievably tragic, certainly beyond my articulation, for something like this to happen.

If you were starting from scratch with a cohesive state you obviously wouldn't want it.

America just isn't that country and if anything arms ownership will continue to rise in line with polarisation.

Rather amusingly all the politicians who want arms control have armed escorts.....so as you'd expect, it's about others giving up their arms before they do.

 


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